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coolgod

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China can manage India geopolitically like it has done for decades. But IMO, the biggest threat by far from India is climate refugees.

If large parts of India become uninhabitable in the next decade or so, it will force hundreds of millions of Indians to migrate. Currently there is a massive heat wave in India and likely thousands (if not more) have already died, way higher than the reported hundreds. This year's heat wave was worst than last year and we haven't even reached peak summer yet. India also does not have the infrastructure to shield the majority of its population from the heat.

If hundreds of millions of Indians are forced to migrate, they can only migrate north into Pakistan or China. China's side is far easier because Tibet and Xinjiang are sparsely populated. Climate change, not geopolitics, will likely force India's hand.
Why would they go to China when they can go to Canada, USA, Australia, Europe :)
 

FriedButter

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China can manage India geopolitically like it has done for decades.

If large parts of India become uninhabitable in the next decade or so, it will force hundreds of millions of Indians to migrate. Currently there is a massive heat wave in India and likely thousands (if not more) have already died, way higher than the reported hundreds. This year's heat wave was worst than last year and we haven't even reached peak summer yet. India also does not have the infrastructure to shield the majority of its population from the heat.

If hundreds of millions of Indians are forced to migrate, they can only migrate north into Pakistan or China.

Those climate refugees will be heating towards South East Asia or elsewhere. Not to China or Pakistan, which is also not cool but slightly more mild than the heatwave in India. The closest cool area in Central Asia is the mountain ranges of Afghanistan under the rule of the Taliban.

As for China, the refugees will be hugging the Indian side of the Himalayas mountains. Traversing the mountains with little supplies or survival skills is extremely dangerous. Meanwhile, China will be sitting on the other side enforcing a strict border control policy along with mass deportations. They will not allow Indians refugees to settle in Xinjiang or Tibet for national security reasons.

Climate change, not geopolitics, will likely force India's hand.

Their hand will only be forced if China tried to stop the water flow from the Himalayas mountains. Any potential risk of conflict will be limited to those mountain resources. Trying to invade China for the purposes of conquering Tibet or Xinjiang will end in a disastrous military campaign due to the logistical problems on a mountain. A long drawn out war will only result in the total collapse of the Indian state over resource exhaustion compounding on top of a climate crisis.
 

FriedButter

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China moving ahead with procedure to raise temporary tariff rate on imported cars with large engines: report​

Chinese industries have voiced strong opposition to the European Commission (EC)'s decision to impose additional provisional tariffs on Chinese battery electric vehicles (EVs) imports, and called on relevant departments to take countermeasures against the EU move, according to a report in a social media account under China Media Group.

According to industry insiders, China is internally moving ahead with the procedure to raise the temporary tariff rate on imported cars with large-displacement engines, Yuyuantantian, the social media account, reported on Thursday.

A Chinese auto industry insider has previously told the Global Times that China should consider raising the temporary tariff rate on imported cars with engines larger than 2.5 liters, and said China's temporary tariff rate on imported vehicles could be raised to a maximum of 25 percent. The insider said that such a move would be not only in line with WTO rules, but also in line with China's broader efforts to promote the green transition in the auto industry and pursue the goal of reducing carbon emissions.

The Yuyuantantian report also said that the Chinese industries called for raising tariffs on imported cars with large-displacement engines to up to 25 percent. Such a move conforms to WTO rules since it's within the scope of China's WTO commitment, said Cui Fan, a professor at the University of International Business and Economics, in the report.

"China has sufficient tools and measures before a final decision by the EU is made," Cui was quoted as saying, adding that China could lodge lawsuits under the dispute settlement mechanism of the WTO.

According to calculation by the China Passenger Car Association, the EU exports a total of $18 billion worth of cars with large-displacement engines to China each year, which is higher than the value of EVs China exported to the EU in 2023.

If China raises temporary tariffs, EU brands like BMW and Mercedes-Benz will bear the brunt and the EU's car exports to China will also be impacted, according to the yuyuantantian report.

Yuyuantantian also reported that the preliminary ruling of the anti-dumping probe into imported brandy from the EU is expected to be announced by the end of August, citing industry experts familiar with the probe.

In January, China's Commerce Ministry announced an anti-dumping probe into imported brandy from the EU following a request from the China Alcoholic Drinks Association on behalf of the domestic industry.

According to customs data, the EU's brandy exports to China jumped by over 20 percent between January and September in 2023, as China has become an important market amid EU brandy's notable sales decrease in other countries.

In response to the decision of the EC, the EU's executive arm, officials from Chinese Foreign Ministry, National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) and Commerce Ministry said China will closely monitor developments in the EU, vowing "necessary measures" to firmly defend the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese companies.

The Chinese car industry has clear and sufficient legal basis to oppose the tariff hikes, as all the links of the case - from the EC's launch of an anti-subsidy probe into Chinese EVs to the investigation process and disclosure of provisional tariffs - are unreasonable, said Yuyuantantian's report.

In October 2023, the EC initiated an anti-subsidy investigation into the EU's imports of EVs from China, as the commission subjectively considers that Chinese EV industry poses a "threat."

Applications for anti-subsidy probes are basically filed by industries, since only industries can directly sense potential threats that a country's products pose to them and then file a petition for investigations out of considerations of their own interests, Sun Xiaohong, secretary-general of the automotive branch of the China Chamber of Commerce for Import and Export of Machinery and Electronic Products (CCCME), was quoted as saying.

"In history, there is almost no case where the EC initiated an anti-subsidy investigation," Sun said in the report.

The CCCME said that the EC's investigation into Chinese EVs "lacks fairness, objectivity and transparency."

The EC does not give a compelling reason on why it took the aim at SAIC Group, BYD and Geely. Citing industry data, the report said Chinese brands take around 8 percent market share in the Europe's EV market, while the three companies take even less market share.

The EC's sampling standards are non-compliant, the procedure is opaque and the result is unfair, Hao Jie, a research fellow with the Institute for International Economic Research of the NDRC, was quoted as saying.

In order to fabricate and exaggerate so-called "subsidies," the EC has disregarded WTO rules by purposely excluding companies from the EU and the US that export more cars in its sampling while only target Chinese local companies, according to Hao.

With no sufficient facts backing its claim of "threat" from Chinese EV enterprises, the EC, however, has made extremely harsh demand on these Chinese companies during the investigation, the report said.

Chinese companies said the EC asked them to provide the ingredient of their batteries, and much other information involving business secrets and core technologies, Sun said in the report.

Even more unreasonable and opaque is that the EU uses information that they collected themselves to make up for the data that they couldn't get from Chinese companies, and do not care whether the data is objective and true, Sun was quoted as saying.

In multiple rounds of investigations and hearings, the EC never considered the stance and concerns of the Chinese side. "It seems that they do not care about communication, and their only focus is to complete the investigation to achieve what they want to do," Sun said.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry vowed on Thursday that all "necessary measures," will be taken. "China must safeguard WTO rules and market principles and must protect the legitimate rights and interests of the Chinese EV industry and its enterprises," said a spokesperson with the ministry at a regular press conference.

Oh would you look at that.

Turns out the EU was actually demanding Chinese companies to hand over trade secrets, ingredients on battery production, and core technologies as part of their “investigation” of cheap Chinese EVs.

Sun Xiaohong, secretary-general of the automotive branch of the China Chamber of Commerce for Import and Export of Machinery and Electronic Products (CCCME)
Chinese companies said the EC asked them to provide the ingredient of their batteries, and much other information involving business secrets and core technologies, Sun said in the report.
 

supercat

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First Kurt campbell and now The Economist? Did the Anglo Zionists decide that maybe it was unwise to make China an enemy along with Russia and Iran?

Here is a follow-up article from the Economist. Even they see the writing on the war: the Tonya Harding strategy won't work.

How worrying is the rapid rise of Chinese science?​

If America wants to maintain its lead, it should focus less on keeping China down

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Huawei, one of the largest Chinese beef importer?
 

Overseaschinese

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It's funny because it just confirms what we suspected.
Certainly @ansy1968 felt this way.
It was so obvious, why would you disparage those vaccines? It's going to save lives, or at least make people feel better. There's no good reason to turn people against it, not like Pfizer could manufacture enough anyway.
The only explanations were profiteering by Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna, or USG influence campaign, and now we know absolutely its the latter.



They claimed the Pentagon are not allowed to target Americans, but the nature of social media and today's poorly vetted media, obviously this would eventually "come home". How many articles cited "less effective Chinese vaccines"?



But I note that you didn't say you are surprised Dr. Public Health specialist.

If 24,000 Filipinos died, and let's say at least half were preventable, does that count as genocide? It was directed mainly at one group...
Two years ago. I said in the COVID thread, that COVID is the biggest scam. The media lied to us to get vaccinated and even the workers in the hospitals lied about the death rate. Everything was about to disgrace China.
Would it be happened to another country. There won't be any lockdown or border closures.

Since the opening up, nobody are really talking about that anymore. Logically through the media, it must be everywhere and full of people in hospitals.
 

daifo

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Two years ago. I said in the COVID thread, that COVID is the biggest scam. The media lied to us to get vaccinated and even the workers in the hospitals lied about the death rate. Everything was about to disgrace China.
Would it be happened to another country. There won't be any lockdown or border closures.

Since the opening up, nobody are really talking about that anymore. Logically through the media, it must be everywhere and full of people in hospitals.

What are you talking about? China was the 1st country to lockdown and close their borders LOL.

Covid was real, it just killed off all the weak, natually "vaccinated" the population, and got weaken over time. Also in the west, the anti-viral medicine paxlovid is highly effective to prevent death and is prescribed like candy to any oldie over the phone (assuming you can afford the 1k ). Maybe the "lie" part was the illusion that it affected everyone equally as severely.
 

AssassinsMace

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Here is a follow-up article from the Economist. Even they see the writing on the war: the Tonya Harding strategy won't work.

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Too bad the American need to feel genetically superior will make them ignore common sense. They need to feel they need no one while everyone needs them. You see here with science and they're thinking that with trade. China and everyone else will collapse without them. That's what they want to believe. How do they stop Chinese from learning science and engineering? Deny them white people from China's process.

You'll hear racists say that China wouldn't be competitive in supercomputer development if whites didn't invent the computer. They're saying that Chinese would've never known the concept of a computer if white people didn't invent it first. And Europeans lived in the dark ages and thought chemistry was witchcraft. Same thing. They couldn't wrap their heads around it hence why they thought it was witchcraft. The Chinese didn't see chemistry as witchcraft hence how what is called gunpowder was discovered. I saw a Western TV pundit say that China is evil because they invented gunpowder to which eventually came nuclear weapons. By their own logic, they would've never developed nuclear science if China didn't open up the West to chemistry. Look at everything that is a result of chemistry. According to their own logic, they couldn't have done anything regarding chemistry without the Chinese.

What they're really afraid of is they're not controlling science in China. Look at stem cell treatments. They hate how China has developed all these stem cell therapies when it according to them comes from killing babies through abortion which all falls on their religious grounds. No such barriers in China.
 
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