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From my experience Chinese government care more about public opinion than west. The latter can just blatantly lie, even though theoritically public opinion has greater influence in a democracy. It is not reflected in practice due to media control.
The difference is China can plan for long term despite managing public opinion. Western government cannot plan long term regardless of how favorable public opinion is.
Congratulations Anwar Ibrahim of Malaysia. A proper leader of an independent ASEAN nation.
Australia was probably hoping that Anwar might bring up Malaysia's dispute with China in the SCS and welcome Australia's military support. But they are dealing with Anwar, and not those corrupted former PMs of Malaysia. This man knows what is truly important for Malaysia and Asia as whole. He can see through Western hypocrisy and is brave enough to call it out within Australia itself.
Australia was probably hoping that Anwar might bring up Malaysia's dispute with China in the SCS and welcome Australia's military support. But they are dealing with Anwar, and not those corrupted former PMs of Malaysia. This man knows what is truly important for Malaysia and Asia as whole. He can see through Western hypocrisy and is brave enough to call it out within Australia itself.
The Chinese government does care about public opinion. But they are not obsessed about it. That is why they were able to do unpopular, but necessary things like the Covid lockdowns, no bailouts for the big developers, video game restrictions on minors, bans on unregulated education businesses, censorships, and affirmative actions. Many of these actions don't sit well with a large section of the Chinese populace. They'll be angry at the government in the shorter term, and can only appreciate these policies in the longer term.
Western governments, and other Western-style democracies are all obsessed about poll numbers. They spend a good chunk of their term in office to win the next election, hence their short term mindsets. Electoral democracies in the 3rd world are the worse types of governments for their people. It is fairly easy to appease the desperate and uneducated masses to get their votes. They can be angry about a politician for years, then on polling day, they get free handouts, and they'll vote for that same idiot again. That's why those nations can't go far.
Nonsense. Covid lock down was the public demand. You clearly forgot the panic back then. That is reason behind long delay.
Nonsense. You clearly don't remember the early parts of 2020 do you? There was panic, but there was no mass demands for a lockdown before it was implemented.
The lockdowns were not popular, even though people understood and went along with it. They were only more supportive of it only in hindsight after the government had implemented it.
Don't just bring up Covid lockdowns! Talk about the other policies too. Don't cherry pick. Make your arguments more comprehensive!
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He has got limited tastes. Taiwan's pineapples are not the best in the world anyway. You can find much better pineapples in SEA. And they're cheaper. He clearly hasn't tried Thai or Malaysian pineapples.
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plawolf
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While both China and the west gives massive attention to public option, there is a critical fundamental difference in how China and the west react to public opinion that then determines everything else.
The Chinese government knows that keeping the people happy is both a core purpose of the government, and also how it stays in power. This is why it listens to what the people say they want, and provided it’s reasonable and achievable, it will set itself to meeting those public wants. It is only where what the public wants is unreasonable or not in the national best interest (for example shooting down Pelosi’s plane or similar excessively thuggish reactions to foreign provocations) that Beijing would work to re-shape and guide public opinion to more reasonable aims.
The western politicians in contrast, doesn’t give a fuck about serving the people. They first serve their own interests, and then their donors/backers/family and friends etc. They only serve the people the minimal amount they need to in order to stay in power.
This why western voters never ever get what they want or were promised they were voting for. Which in turn explains why there is such low trust and confidence in their leaders. Because even though the western masses are sufficiently brainwashed to never even dream of asking for a better deal, they still know they are being fucked raw.
Chinese citizens have high trust in their government even when they disagree with specific choices because the Chinese government has a proven and consistent track record in doing the right thing by the people and always looking to serve the nations best interests.
In the past, endemic corruption meant lower and mid-level officials often didn’t serve the public interest the best they can, which created a lot of dissatisfaction and resentment amongst the people, but because the central government always steered the ship well, things never got too out of hand, since as soon as some local official got too bold and attracted wider public dissatisfaction for bad behaviour, senior leaders in Beijing promptly dealt with them accordingly to the law. But with Xi’s anti-corruption drives paying off in rooting out low-level corruption to a large extent, this addressed this issue which is why Chinese public opinion is so overwhelmingly favourable of its government.
Arabs invested money in Trump when he was down and complaining that American Jews dont love Israel. Gulf Arabs didnot care at time that Trump will make a come back. I cannot spoon feed the topic if you dont have that indepth knowledge about Gulf Arabs.
Elon is wealthy and not with same women to have 7 kids. thats difference in family values. I mean real data. not the data that is published. Crimea is included in that part. this is the demographic that is driving the policies.
Saudi/Muslim are irrelevant?. These Ministers travel around to make sure there policies are implemented in this region.
who do you think these people are and where they shop around and where is that Desert color gate?.
that sustain 130m sq of housing per year. single family will be in addition as that individual choice. last time they made like half a million single family homes a year.
This is a slightly more detailed article about the same news. The comments on there and on reddit were wild, some takes like 3 years for $7 million is worth it, and why should Canada have to pay for our spies, and it's all Libs/Trudeau's fault.
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