you and what position of strength?
Wow. The guest hasn't even arrived, and yet the host is already being soooooo unreasonable.
The demands are:
1. End PLA activities in Taiwan's air defense zone east of the Taiwan Strait median line.
2. End "unsafe interceptions" of U.S. Navy and Air Force ships and aircraft.
3. Release all U.S. citizens illegally detained in China.
4. Allow all U.S. citizens who are banned to leave the PRC.
5. Establish "know your customer" requirements for fentanyl shipments to the PRC.
6. Beijing should stop harassing Philippine ships around Second Thomas Bank.
7. China should drop charges against Apple Daily founder Jimmy Lai and pro-democracy activists Hong Kong 47.
8. Release Gulshan Abbas, Ekpar Asat, Kamile Waiit.
9. Lift the travel ban on Aisham Mamut, mother of Nura Turkel, chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom.
10. Suspend programs in Xinjiang.
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you and what position of strength?
The purpose of Xi's visit is to give Biden the finger in person.
Know that any rapprochement will end once Biden leaves office in slightly more than a year. The next US president (likely Republican) will make Biden look like a walk in the park in terms of US-China relations. Any concessions made now will likely be reversed. Why do you think America is reaching out now - during the tail end of Biden's presidency.
Turns out beggars can be choosers.
The next administration will also get the finger. The Chinese people rightfully regard America as a mortal enemy, regardless of the person in charge.
Trump also begged for a deal just before his reelection. Biden is just following Trump's lead. The Next US president would be another big mouth and good for nothing politician as the political environment in the US guarantees only the one who is most willing to bow to wealthy donors win.
You guys have to realise that Chinese leaders are students of history and the actions they do are also meant to be interpreted by historians not just by the world stage.
And what does Xi’s visit symbolise despite the intractable nature of the Anglo American threat?
That Xi and the Chinese people did everything humanly possible for world peace and friendship or at least a working relationship, only to be turned down by an apartheid white supremacist state that is committed to its own dominance and the enslavement of mankind. If it comes to war, it will be a long one and the Chinese people need to know the leadership did everything they could to prevent war.
The Europeans sleep walked their way into WW1 due to their own arrogance, China is more levelheaded than that.
Sometimes I miss practices of the old days where peace demanded the heads of all the members of the War Party and the petitioning party having to give up their nobles’ children as hostages.
And look, Chinese officials being reasonable, this does not go unnoticed by global players.
and in light of the anglos needing to run to serve their Jewish Zionist ruling class, the anti China crusade must wait.
btw anyone notice how the world did not go psycho against China despite the Anglo propaganda of “Uighur genocide”, and yet the world is wholly disgusted by Israel for its real and ongoing genocide. Even with the BDSM imaginations and sex pics passed off as torture by the Anglo propagandists, they could not compete against the reality of Palestinians picking out charred pieces and scraps of their children from a tray of an ashen heap.
You are worried that Xi will be taken advantage of in event of negotiation, but worry not - this ain't his first rodeo.
This isn't going to look exactly like Treaty of Nanking but the idea is similar - US is currently fighting on three fronts and none of them are going that well:
- Russo-Ukraine War, where AFU's big Spring Offensive have failed and Russians are slowly advancing and potentially arranging a Bakhmut 2.0 at Avdiivka
- Israeli-Palestinian Conflict which have derailed their Saudi-Israeli normalization process and causing the west's image to take a further nose dive in the Global South due to supporting Israeli ethnic cleansing, and the offensive into Gaza is not going as well as planned
- trade war and tech war with China, where Huawei gave them a kick up the ass with the Mate 60 breakthrough
I was quite taken aback when I read this, but on second thought that's a very normal human reaction isn't it? I too clean up my house before visitors come, particularly if it's people I'm trying to impress, we're just not used to this coming from Americans. Xi knows what's up, if all the attempts by Biden to get a meeting with him is not clear enough you just need to look at the conga line of US politicians visiting Beijing prior to this meeting. It's clear they want some help and I trust Xi to drive a hard bargin.
I'm also not worried about this, because we've already seen this happen once before under Biden. Recall the meeting between Xi and Biden at Bali where they had some kind of closed door agreement. To this day MFA would say US needs to mean what they say and carry out the Bali Agreement and you won't even hear that name from US government.
The result? When Xi goes now the price that was on offer at Bali will no longer be available. Whatever help US wants from China, the price is higher. And if this time around they want to renege again then fine, by next meeting (with either Biden or whoever replaces him) the price that US will have to pay will be higher still.