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LawLeadsToPeace

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From Bloomberg. I do not trust those fucks but not a good sign if this is true.

China suicide rates rise among young amid pressure to do well at school​

  • •Researchers warn that the widespread belief among adults that getting good scores trumps anything else risks obscuring mental health issues plaguing children
  • •They are urging government to develop programmes for children and teens that adopt best practices from abroad and help identify suicidal behaviour early on
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It’s from SCMP and it’s source of information is from China’s CDC:

China has seen an increase in suicides among young people in recent years, prompting researchers to call for a special programme to help them deal with academic pressure.
The number of children aged five to 14 that died by suicide jumped nearly 10 per cent annually from 2010 to 2021, according to a recent study from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention. The figure for people aged 15 to 24 fell seven per cent through 2017 then posted a nearly 20 per cent increase the next four years.

So, yes, the information is legitimate.
 

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From Bloomberg. I do not trust those fucks but not a good sign if this is true.

China suicide rates rise among young amid pressure to do well at school​

  • •Researchers warn that the widespread belief among adults that getting good scores trumps anything else risks obscuring mental health issues plaguing children
  • •They are urging government to develop programmes for children and teens that adopt best practices from abroad and help identify suicidal behaviour early on

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Highly competitive systems have a tendency to create tons of pressure and stress on all those going through the pipeline. Especially when parents are harassing the kids at home so they don't have psychological downtime. The best targeted solution is to have state-funded psychiatrists routinely monitor classrooms on the down low, flagging some students that exhibit signs for secondary screening. Potential counseling TBD. This needs to be state-driven and state-funded as most parents are too dense to understand they often contribute to the psychological pressure. Most of them are going to be a part of the problem rather than a part of the solution, and that needs to be understood and accepted.
 

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Highly competitive systems have a tendency to create tons of pressure and stress on all those going through the pipeline. Especially when parents are harassing the kids at home so they don't have psychological downtime. The best targeted solution is to have state-funded psychiatrists routinely monitor classrooms on the down low, flagging some students that exhibit signs for secondary screening. Potential counseling TBD. This needs to be state-driven and state-funded as most parents are too dense to understand they often contribute to the psychological pressure. Most of them are going to be a part of the problem rather than a part of the solution, and that needs to be understood and accepted.
Do you know if psychiatry still seen as taboo? I know East Asian countries tend to see it as a stigma and so people who need often avoid it and suffer. However, the West takes it too far the other way prescribing everyone with ADHD and anxiety medication and promoting self affirmation of social dysfunction like gender dsyophia and other mental illnesses.
 

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Do you know if psychiatry still seen as taboo? I know East Asian countries tend to see it as a stigma and so people who need often avoid it and suffer. However, the West takes it too far the other way prescribing everyone with ADHD and anxiety medication and promoting self affirmation of social dysfunction like gender dsyophia and other mental illnesses.
I can only speak to Taiwan and HK for it being still extremely stigmatized. I don't know enough about the mainland. Another Darwinian way to look at this is that this means only the more capable and/or psychologically resilient kids make it to adulthood... I don't agree with this line of thinking, but I can see it being a common philosophy among elites.
 

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It’s from SCMP and it’s source of information is from China’s CDC:

China has seen an increase in suicides among young people in recent years, prompting researchers to call for a special programme to help them deal with academic pressure.
The number of children aged five to 14 that died by suicide jumped nearly 10 per cent annually from 2010 to 2021, according to a recent study from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention. The figure for people aged 15 to 24 fell seven per cent through 2017 then posted a nearly 20 per cent increase the next four years.

So, yes, the information is legitimate.
Not totally, the study didn't breakdown the total number of children from each age group. It didn't tell us if the number of children is increasing or decreasing during this period of study. More information is needed to pinpoint the reason why all other age groups are having a decrease in suicide but not this age group. The study can totally be right and legitimate but without the background statistics I would only give it the benefit of the doubt. Any article from SCMP I still take it with a grain of salt.
 

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Not totally, the study didn't breakdown the total number of children from each age group. It didn't tell us if the number of children is increasing or decreasing during this period of study. More information is needed to pinpoint the reason why all other age groups are having a decrease in suicide but not this age group. The study can totally be right and legitimate but without the background statistics I would only give it the benefit of the doubt. Any article from SCMP I still take it with a grain of salt.
SCMP is mostly garbage tier, so there's also that.
 
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The classic "Oh, I didn't call them losers just said that they are less educated, savvy and jobless", lol.
Again, I'm at a loss of why what I wrote was found to be so offensive by some people, but here's the response I wrote in a past post because I don't want this to become another multithread tussle.
I think its equally nasty for you to claim that I think of these people as losers. Here is what I wrote, where did I say they were losers?
"They mostly fall in the bracket of being less savy and educated at a subpar university, laid off from their job, not being able to find a new oppurtunity, and thus not able to get their visa in order, so they have no choice." I said they were less savy, which some people in this world just are, there's no shame in it at least from my perspective. They follow a pretty standard route of getting a job as soon as they're handed their diploma and only speak the English level necessary to interview for and perform the basics of where they work, while savvier ones go beyond that's just a simple fact. "Educated at a subpar university," which is a fact not all overseas Chinese are funneling into Stanford and UCLA, plenty of state schools have a decent sized Mainland Chinese student body. If you thought me characterizing state schools as subpar universities is too harsh, fine I'll take it back. The rest of my post was just pure reality, so I don't know what offended you. Layoffs happened, some Chinese couldn't hack it out, so they had no choice but to go back. Now to me these people have already accomplished a lot more than many of my American peers for whom the farthest they've wandered from the neighborhood they were born in is to a city three hours away. If you think the kind of people I described are losers and thus its on me to think of them as losers as well, hey that's on you.
 
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