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azn_cyniq

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Honestly I think this is not a win. Given China has the talent to produce top quality papers, why should Chinese researchers publish them in an English journal? Chinese should be confident and have a flagship research journal in Chinese only.

Chinese researchers citing each other's English journal papers even though everyone is Chinese is pretty cringe.
I agree with you, but we need to be patient. English has been the de facto language of science for more than a century, and for good reason. When Chinese scientists produce the majority of the world's scientific breakthroughs, and I believe that day is on the horizon, it won't be long before China replaces English as the de facto language of science.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I agree with you, but we need to be patient. English has been the de facto language of science for more than a century, and for good reason. When Chinese scientists produce the majority of the world's scientific breakthroughs, and I believe that day is on the horizon, it won't be long before China replaces English as the de facto language of science.
An advantage of scientific Chinese is actually how simple it is. Scientific vocabulary in Chinese only uses easy characters. Once the volume and quality is there, the users will soon follow. for physical sciences and engineering, every scientific term has long had a Chinese counterpart. CS falls behind a little, admittedly.

An example is, if you watch Three Body (Tencent version), they never speak English at all, even when talking about stuff like nanomaterials, astrophysics, etc.
 

Temstar

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Scientific vocabulary in Chinese only uses easy characters.
Fun fact: Qian Xuesen himself was responsible for coming up with many of the official Chinese scientific terms and he did an excellent job, he very deliberately aimed to give them a more Chinese and literal feel. Some examples:

Original EnglishQian Xuesen's Chinese translationROC Chinese translation
LASER激光 (stimulated light)镭射 (direct phonetic transcription of laser)
missile导弹 (guided projectile)飞弹 (flying projectile)

I find them much more meaningful than ROC counterpart. Even some of the ones he came up with that were not accepted, such as "陷光星" (star of collapsed light) for Black Hole were very artful.
 

Biscuits

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Honestly I think this is not a win. Given China has the talent to produce top quality papers, why should Chinese researchers publish them in an English journal? Chinese should be confident and have a flagship research journal in Chinese only.

Chinese researchers citing each other's English journal papers even though everyone is Chinese is pretty cringe.
I don't think so. Eventually, it may become required to mainly use Chinese internationally, but having 2 separate systems for now, scientists can publish on (Chinese and English) allows China to retain scientific knowhow better.

The most sensitive advancements should not be easily available in international circles.
 

coolgod

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I don't think so. Eventually, it may become required to mainly use Chinese internationally, but having 2 separate systems for now, scientists can publish on (Chinese and English) allows China to retain scientific knowhow better.

The most sensitive advancements should not be easily available in international circles.
The problem is Chinese scientists are still first publishing their research in English journals, thereby reinforcing English as the Lingua Franca of Academia. The only way to break this cycle is to reward/force top tier researchers to only first publish their high impact papers in Chinese flagship journals.
 

coolgod

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Hunter Biden’s Daughter and a Tale of Two Families​

The story surrounding the president’s grandchild in Arkansas, who has not yet met her father or her grandfather, is about money, corrosive politics and what it means to have the Biden birthright.

There is a 4-year-old girl in rural Arkansas who is learning to ride a camouflage-patterned four-wheeler alongside her cousins. Some days, she wears a bow in her hair, and on other days, she threads her long blond ponytail through the back of a baseball cap. When she is old enough, she will learn to hunt, just like her mother did when she was young.

The girl is aware that her father is Hunter Biden and that her paternal grandfather is the president of the United States. She speaks about both of them often, but she has not met them. Her maternal grandfather, Rob Roberts, described her as whip-smart and funny.

Had to do a double take to make sure it was NY Times and not NY Post. The deep state clearly had enough of Dementia Joe, DeSantis is their next golden boy.
 

Chevalier

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Honestly I think this is not a win. Given China has the talent to produce top quality papers, why should Chinese researchers publish them in an English journal? Chinese should be confident and have a flagship research journal in Chinese only.

Chinese researchers citing each other's English journal papers even though everyone is Chinese is pretty cringe.
The arrogance of the anglo prevents them from studying Chinese and actually learning something from China; if you'll notice and German sinologist Thorsten Pattberg has pointed this out, that the West tried to commodify and steal aspects of Chinese culture and science so they can trademark and own it and they do this by re-defining Chinese terms away from its original intent and meaning to a more western conceptual way of thinking.

Secondly, i would not fear westerners learning Chinese, even if they're forced to do it out of spite. Many physical chemistry terms come from German due to the influence of German chemists and researchers of the 19th c. and early 20th c. so if a future Chinese scientist is using english terms to research and build Chinese science that will give rise to an interstellar drive for Chinese starships to Europa, i won't shed a tear.
To do otherwise is to do as the insecure westerners often do- as the Nazis who shut down 'jewish science' due to their racial prejudices, the anglos publicly shut down 'Chinese science' whilst trying desperately to steal it and claim it as their own.
 
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Hunter Biden’s Daughter and a Tale of Two Families​

The story surrounding the president’s grandchild in Arkansas, who has not yet met her father or her grandfather, is about money, corrosive politics and what it means to have the Biden birthright.



Had to do a double take to make sure it was NY Times and not NY Post. The deep state clearly had enough of Dementia Joe, DeSantis is their next golden boy.
Let's talk about intent for this article. Clearly this was aimed at reducing Bi.den's credibility. The target to me seems to be self described middle class moderate muricans from the Midwest who claim to have very family centric values. We'll call this the 'heartland demographic'. They form the foot soldiers, both literally and figuratively, for the empire.

Basically, whoever the heartland demographic is ordered by their media mouthpieces to love, will be loved. Whoever the heartland demographic is told to hate, they will hate. Of course, most do not actually give a shit about the family values of Hunter - they barely know the guy except as some video on CNN or Fox - but they must act like they do in public, and feign outrage at this. Their feigned outrage will transform into real outrage from the useful idiot vote bank (lib.tards and fas.cists) who actually get invested in this.
 
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