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Biscuits

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US is already overstretched, losing its edge and running low on resources to sustain its hegemony, and yet it continues to expand militarily on two fronts (Europe, Asia) while trying to hold onto Middle East. If US keeps this up, it is inevitable that US will eventually exhaust all resources, runs itself into the ground and implodes. It is impossible for US elites and their vassals to not see this. It is conceivable that US is gearing up for an all-out pre-emptive attack against China a la Pearl Habour when oppertune time arrives. I propose a hypothetic scenario:

Circa 2030. China's economy has matched or slightly surpassed US economy, and China has achieved approximate technological parity with the entire Western world. Meanwhile US debt has hit 300% of GDP as US dollar's usage in global FX transactions have dropped to around 60%. Civil unrest across US has reached an all-time high and prominent researchers are being dismissed and imprisoned for "propagating Chinese Physik" instead of "American Science." Russia-Ukraine war has stalemated into low-level exchanges around the Dniper River for the last 5 years. US military budget has surged passed $1 trillion for the 3rd year in a row and have just managed to finish deployment of long-range cruise missiles across China's coastline. Unofficial US "advisors" in Taiwan has reached brigade strength and it is estimated that there is sufficient weapons stockpiled on the island to last 3 months of all out war. The 2nd and 3rd island chain has been fortified by US military, which has ballooned to 3 million troops. Suddenly, China expriences a national crisis akin to 2020 COVID outbreak, resulting in mass lockdowns, economic shutdown, and temporary demobilization of workforce. US leadership decides that the oppertunity has arrived for Taiwan to declare independence, followed by a massed pre-emptive strike against Chinese mainland regardless of China's reaction.

I am not saying that this is written in stone. As long as China continues to make no major strategic mistakes while beefing up its military deterrance and economy there is still hope that US decline can be managed. But judging from the way that US is speeding up its own decline through further overexertion I see war looming over the horizon.

Yes, Chinese tech companies have learned from US work culture, but not all companies. 军事化管理 is still prevalent amongst Chinese companies.
It's not impossible that America would feel pressured to begin a military operation on China, especially when China may get an equal or larger sized military.

But the communist leadership is very wily. They might not be a "strong" government like the Americans which can impose whatever domestic dictats and opinion changes freely, but when it comes to playing international relations, that's their strength.

China will more than likely call in favors and play cards that makes a special operation on Taiwan impossible. Events such as the Ukraine war will spring up whenever US thinks they're ready to launch, forcing them to respond. If not for the war last year, it's likely that America intended to send Pelosi to begin the negotiation with local anti government forces in order to spring a total invasion. However, because of the Ukraine war, US had to focus all it's energy there instead, and the meeting had nothing important in it.

China has plays ongoing in South America, in Central America, in Mexico, in Iran and in the Middle East. Any one of these could rapidly heat up into a situation where US must respond and grind it's time, money and possibly lives away, while China merely needs to provide back line support to the anti-US faction.

That is probably the major reason why China does not engage in military buildup and keeps the budget low. Its plans only call for a minimum to guard the home territories and technologies that can be used for proxy wars.

In essence it is like the surrounding from the countryside strategy. US would prefer to launch an assault on the metropolis where they can fight the China's garrison 1 on 1. But China will disperse forces into the countryside and whittle down the Americans together with local guerrillas from all across the world, until the US military can no longer sustain offensive operations.
 

Wuhun

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It is important to compare the cohort size and who is going where.
At no point China had 60% of its best university students emigrating to the US after graduating.

Oh missed this in the earlier reply. You can look at it this way, India is losing 8/10 of its top STEM talent but China is loosing 30/100. That means America is getting more top tier STEM talents from China than India.

In percentage wise India looks bigger because they're producing fewer to begin with.
 

Biscuits

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Oh missed this in the earlier reply. You can look at it this way, India is losing 8/10 of its top STEM talent but China is loosing 30/100. That means America is getting more top tier STEM talents from China than India.

In percentage wise India looks bigger because they're producing fewer to begin with.
China also has an overproduction of semi qualified personnel, to the point where youth unemployment is fairly high even with a lot of expatriates.

The situation is really not comparable at all. China has about as much population as all of Europe, and as of 2023, the newest generation now has the same gdp per capita as Europe as well. However, the ones going out now are the young adults, which are slightly less affluent.

Still, that means China makes a ton of "skilled" workers (at least on paper skilled lol). Just like you find Europeans pretty much anywhere, it is now also become common that to find Chinese anywhere, as they can afford to move.

In contrast, India still needs every single one of its professionals for development, but it isn't getting them due to cultural/economic reasons.

With a fulfilled demand at home, there's no way China can realistically hold onto all it's population. The best China can do is to sharply discourage expats from going to enemy countries, but the CPC itself is reluctant to draw clear lines between allies and enemies. Raising immigration to for example Russia or certain states in West Europe and Africa/Middle East would be a better solution. From there on, immigrant communities can act as liaisons that exchange Chinese culture to the locals.
 

Chevalier

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Likely a worse brain drain than PR China ever experienced.
Yet out of those millions, the top 1% of Indian talent and “brains”, how much of that is applied to the hard material sciences and engineering? And how much of it goes into loquacious bullshit jobs where these Indians can use their nepotistic family connections to pull their cousins and cousins’ cousins into iron rice bowl positions? Oracle, Microsoft, McKinsey…the evidence speaks for itself.

In other worst best kept secrets of the new cold war

I really want IRBMs on Cuba and Mexico, after all the anglos want to out missiles on the Philippine, they should have no problem with Chinese hypersonic missiles on Cuba.
 

Sardaukar20

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ASEAN FIRST JOINT SCS PATROL

Misleading reporting by CNA. Saying that Indonesia is doing this "joint patrol" to send a message to China.

Firstly, China is not a major claimant of the Natuna Islands area. Its 9-dash line barely overlaps over that area. Second, China helped Indonesia to salvage it's sunken submarine in 2021. If Indonesia really had beef with China, it would have most likely refused that help. Preferring to ask the US, Japan, or other Western nations for help.

To Indonesia, it's main rivals for the Natuna area are Malaysia, Vietnam, and maybe Brunei. Its biggest tensions are with Vietnam in particular. There were several videos of their coast guards colliding with each other.

The SCS disputes are again, a complex matter. Singapore is not a major claimant in the SCS. So its media tends to oversimplify the matter, and take on a Western slant to reporting about it. Afterall, Singapore is a founding member of ASEAN. So some people in Singapore tend to think that Singapore is the 'leader' of ASEAN. Like what Brussels is to the EU. Nope, it doesn't work like that. Most SEA nations won't accept any one country to become the overall leader of ASEAN. Not Singapore for sure.
 

zhangjim

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How did the black panther movies do in Asia, I believe they did quite well.
If you want to ask China's opinion on this movie, I can only say that the evaluation is not good.
But on the other hand, the box office performance is not too bad (excluding Black Panther 2)
Although movie special effects are still very impactful, it is difficult for audiences to understand why the world's most technologically advanced country use spears to fight.

Real African film industry workers are very diligent, and those who claim to respect black people may as well sponsor the film industry in Africa. But the result is that Hollywood will only use these boring things to please equally mentally impoverished African Americans.
 

Breadbox

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Giga based if true. Should also host a few nuclear-tipped ICMBs there to promote regional peace and stability.
Yea no, any one who knows the Anglos would instinctually distrust any claim they make, they are most likely making up stories to manufacture consent for more sanctions, blockades and political interference.
 

Diaspora

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So some people in Singapore tend to think that Singapore is the 'leader' of ASEAN. Like what Brussels is to the EU. Nope, it doesn't work like that. Most SEA nations won't accept any one country to become the overall leader of ASEAN. Not Singapore for sure.
Utter rubbish.
No one in Singapore "thinks Singapore is the leader of ASEAN".
Singapore encouraged ASEAN mostly because it knew it was weak and small, not because it wanted to become a leader.

It's true that Singapore tends to simply parrot what western media says about everything. But that is simply because Singapore is too weak to actually have its own viewpoint and project it. Plus I don't even know how you link parroting the western media to "thinking you are the leader"

These 2 matters are completely different things.
 
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