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Abominable

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I absolutely agree with most of your points, but I still believe that true power stems from the creation of value. For instance, Mark Zuckerberg alone has created more wealth and influence for the Jewish-American community than 100 Indian CEOs.

Chinese-Americans founded or co-founded many household names like YouTube, Nvidia, Twitch, Yahoo, Snapchat (Filipino-Chinese), and Zoom but none of these companies are helping Chinese-Americans assert influence on the affairs of the United States. Chinese-Americans are academically gifted, but seem to lack business acumen. For instance, YouTube and Twitch were sold to other companies in their infancy and Yahoo refused to purchase Google. In my opinion, Chinese-Americans need to understand the importance of political influence. Many Chinese-Americans, due to our upbringing, aspire to be scientists and engineers because those professions enable us to generate value. However, for the sake of our community, more of us should aspire to be executives and politicians.

Indian-Americans are great at securing political influence, but I still believe that Chinese-Americans should follow the Jewish-American model by generating influence through the creation of value. YouTube, Twitch, and Yahoo could have led to Chinese-owned business empires, but unfortunately they didn't. Nonetheless, I hope that the next big company founded by a Chinese-American does lead to more influence for our community. I attend an Ivy League school and one of my Chinese-American classmates, who is a close friend of mine, recently founded a startup that is already worth millions. I don't want to say too much about this matter due to the presence of lurkers on this forum, but I'll discuss these thoughts with him. Who knows, maybe 10 years down the line his company will become the source of the influence so many of us are talking about on this forum.
Indians who work in the west aren't a plot by the Indian government to infiltrate the west, they are leaving because of a lack of opportunities in India. Thinking that is the case is not far off the American claim that the CCP is infiltrating America.

Comparing either Indians or Chinese to Jewish people is different for a number of reasons. First, Jewish Americans look "American" and can infiltrate corporations, media, banks and politics without it being obvious. Imagine if there were as many Chinese (or even Asian looking people) in as many cabinet positions as American Jews are today, it's impossible.

The other reason is there is no organisation coordinating and lobbying prominent Indians to advance the interests of India. If anything ethnic Indians in American politics seem to be critical of India. Remember that Indian guy Biden sent to India to tell them to sanction Russia?

With Jews in America (or any European country) there are a number of organisations coordinating them, AIPAC, ADL, ZOA etc. In fact many hold dual citizenship with Israel. It's hard enough to imagine an ethnic Chinese politician getting a cabinet position in America, can you imagine what the reaction would be if it turned out he had a Chinese passport?
 

azn_cyniq

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Indians who work in the west aren't a plot by the Indian government to infiltrate the west, they are leaving because of a lack of opportunities in India. Thinking that is the case is not far off the American claim that the CCP is infiltrating America.

Comparing either Indians or Chinese to Jewish people is different for a number of reasons. First, Jewish Americans look "American" and can infiltrate corporations, media, banks and politics without it being obvious. Imagine if there were as many Chinese (or even Asian looking people) in as many cabinet positions as American Jews are today, it's impossible.

The other reason is there is no organisation coordinating and lobbying prominent Indians to advance the interests of India. If anything ethnic Indians in American politics seem to be critical of India. Remember that Indian guy Biden sent to India to tell them to sanction Russia?

With Jews in America (or any European country) there are a number of organisations coordinating them, AIPAC, ADL, ZOA etc. In fact many hold dual citizenship with Israel. It's hard enough to imagine an ethnic Chinese politician getting a cabinet position in America, can you imagine what the reaction would be if it turned out he had a Chinese passport?
I don't think that Indian-Americans are sent here by the Indian government to infiltrate our companies and institutions. I am just saying that once Indian-Americans become entrenched in American companies and institutions, they tend to be nepotistic and pull other Indians and Indian-Americans into those companies, regardless of merit. I don't think Chinese-Americans should follow that model. Of course, there are brilliant Indian-Americans, they are just outnumbered by nepotistic Indian-Americans based on my experience.
 

pmc

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Aviation - another industry Germany used to be globally successful in. Even in the PR article you posted you neglected to mention the fact that Lufthansa will be refurbishing BOEING aircraft. 10-20 years ago they would have been Airbus.

For you the whole world is the Middle East, Germany and India with cherry picked PR releases to confirm your biases. What about Africa, South/central America, the rest of Asia?

"The King of Dubai bought a Maybach, German industry is great"
"The Shah of Iran bought a German toothbrush, German healthcare is number one."
It does not matter whether its Boeing or Airbus deal is with German firm.
Look at the structure of family system like Royals. they define generations of interests.
which vaccine they trust?. (regardless whether its good or bad).

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PiSigma

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Ottomans conquered Arabs for 400 years.

If German engineering is so great how come they don't have a space, semiconductor, EV, shipbuilding or software industry? Clearly they're replaceable there. So you're wrong again.
He forgot to mention SAP is the only large German software company. And the hate for SAP is probably greater than for the Nazis. SAP is German revenge for losing the war.
 

pmc

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You really need to learn to use Google. Salaries are all pre tax and in order to compare apple to apples you need to look at each country separately. ME is not the world and most people don't give a crap about it.
So you are comparing Pre Tax Canadian salary with USD salary after tax?. ME is the world where you will find large Sovereign wealth funds. large real estate global sales. International travel Connections with among best airlines and that without that $100b Saudi investment that will attract alot more people. its good you not bring up Pilot salary again as they further increase in 2023.
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Overtime pay is available at many airlines. When an airline needs to ensure a flight happens they will offer anywhere from 100% to 300% (or more) to get pilots to pick up the job.
At this time in 2022, this is an incredibly common occurrence. And with no end in sight for the pilot shortage, this will likely continue for years to come.

Software engineers don't actually get paid that much. If you look at anywhere in north America, petroleum engineers get paid the most.

You haven't backed up your statements with any facts/statistics.
software in Canada maybe paid less. California has larger population than Canada. Just looking at per capita income there is no need any deeper statistics as software drives California.
This is actual tax data from Houston. avg is $157K for petroleum. that is more like entry level software. one time i got to know some one in Pixar animation and that time he was getting double what i was expecting for that period of time. so the point is software is not standardized unlike Petroleum engineering. its a stale subject like running a utility.
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Britain’s 42 coups since 1945​

The UK has planned or executed over 40 attempts to remove foreign governments in 27 countries since the end of the Second World War, involving the intelligence agencies, covert and overt military interventions and assassinations, Declassified has found.


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It's nothing compared to Britain's former self.
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Taiwan has become the new "white man's burden".
BTW, here is a diagram illustrating Elbridge Colby's sophisticated analysis of China-Taiwan relationship above.

So much for the shining beacon on the hill:

Asian policymakers can think for themselves.

‘Let’s not divide into blocs’: EU faces pushback from Indo-Pacific on Ukraine​

  • Some ministers in the region back an immediate halt to fighting in Ukraine, countering the EU position that such a move would solidify Russian gains
  • Pacific Island Forum leader Filimon Manoni called discussions ‘sobering’
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luminary

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Because China doesn't ever respond to US provocations, the MSM can only repeat the same talking points as they have in the past decade. This has caused "listening fatigue" among the rest of the world who have already debunked long-standing smearing on "Chinese debt traps". The slander eventually becomes meaningless noise and ever more exaggerated/detached from reality, destroying US credibility and weakening ability to influence investor/national decision making.

By refusing to lower themselves to Western playing field, China is forcing other countries to do their own critical thinking and make their own analyses on the world situation.

This quiet self-confidence also requires heads of state to commit themselves and visit China to understand it. This is also what causes the diplomatic flurry of visits, contributing to the perception that China is the new world leader and getting a invitation to China is a great honor.
 
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