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manqiangrexue

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>On the Chinese side, because of censorship and because of the Great Firewall, it’s very difficult for us to project the true sense of what our government believes in, what it’s trying to do, what Congress is doing, or what the average American is thinking about China. Google and Facebook and YouTube are not permitted to operate here. And as the American ambassador, I am not allowed to print an unedited op-ed in the People’s Daily, the way that the Chinese ambassador to the United States is welcome to print op-eds in our press. So all of us here worry that the Chinese people often aren’t able to get a true picture of who we are as a society because of all these because of all these barriers.

That was a Grade A amerimutt moment
They're lucky that China shields its citizens from the content of the American web. It's known that the most patriotic Chinese are those who have gone over the firewall to see what Americans are really like when inhibitions are taken away by the anonymity of a computer screen. If it was common knowledge in China how hateful and bigotted Americans are towards China, Chinese public opinion of the US would be much worse. Instead, Chinese people still give America far more credit than it deserves both in terms of morals and in capability because they can only see America through the filters of a political mask.
Women are easier to manipulate emotionally...but no probs, have them live in San Fran, Seattle or Sweden for a few weeks, they'll be educated and mentally cured in no time.
Society is male-dominated so men will decide whether your experience is positive or negative. Men and women compliment while men and men compete. When a female foreigner enters the circle, the men treat her well, making her think that their society is kind and welcoming. When a male foreigner enters the circle, the men treat him as a rival, a representative of an opposing team, and so they sleight him, making him understand that their society is hostile towards his. Whether the foreign country is a friendly one or a rival has almost no impact on how they treat a woman, because men see her as mate potential, someone whom you don't want to upset lest she take that potential away. Plus, if you can mate her, that is a symbolic middle finger to her country because as a man, you have just conquered a little piece of it. On the other hand, whether that foriegn country is friend or foe has a large effect on how they treat a man because it paints him as either a true enemy in every sense or as a rival in mate-finding but an ally on the world stage. That Americans are starting to break this natural hormonally-determined trend and attack Asian women shows that the fear invoked in American society by China's rise has grown to a magnitude where it is causing dysfunction so deep that it affects even the most basic levels of sexual instinct.
 
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clockwork

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They're lucky that China shields its citizens from the content of the American web. It's known that the most patriotic Chinese are those who have gone over the firewall to see what Americans are really like when inhibitions are taken away by the anonymity of a computer screen. If it was common knowledge in China how hateful and bigotted Americans are towards China, Chinese public opinion of the US would be much worse. Instead, Chinese people still give America far more credit than it deserves both in terms of morals and in capability because they can only see America through the filters of a political mask.

Society is male-dominated so men will decide whether your experience is positive or negative. Men and women compliment while men and men compete. When a female foreigner enters the circle, the men treat her well, making her think that their society is kind and welcoming. When a male foreigner enters the circle, the men treat him as a rival, a representative of an opposing team, and so they sleight him, making him understand that their society is hostile towards his. Whether the foreign country is a friendly one or a rival has almost no impact on how they treat a woman, because men see her as mate potential, someone whom you don't want to upset lest she take that potential away. Plus, if you can mate her, that is a symbolic middle finger to her country because as a man, you have just conquered a little piece of it. On the other hand, whether that foriegn country is friend or foe has a large effect on how they treat a man because it paints him as either a true enemy in every sense or as a rival in mate-finding but an ally on the world stage. That Americans are starting to break this natural sexually-determined trend and even attack Asian women truly shows a dysfunctional level of fear caused by China's rise.
This is the most chinese people loving rabid amerimutt that the ambassador deeply wishes the CCP would allow its people to see.

I agree with him though, it's unfortunate that most chinese are utterly naive to the fact that this is what rabid westoids think about them.
 

manqiangrexue

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I agree with him though, it's unfortunate that most chinese are utterly naive to the fact that this is what rabid westoids think about them.
Hatred causes imbalance. Fighters often taunt enemies to make them commit to errors in anger. That Chinese people were shielded from that hatred likely allowed us to learn from America and develop ourselves as a foremost. In the long term, this is the correct strategy to becoming powerful enough to defeat an overwhelming enemy. Countries that are rabidly anti-US usually fail to make progress into a major power because not only do they reveal themselves to the enemy before they are ready, they also failed to develop themselves because in their hatred, they refused to acknowledge that there is much to humbly learn from this vile enemy. North Korea being the prime example of this effect. But we are at the inflection point where we reach peer level and our citizens need to know who the enemy really is in order to get them to push with all their might in the right direction.
 

horse

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I'm confused why India's economic performance isn't translating into actual purchasing power. I mean by 2007 China has already surpassed US in automobile ownership, becoming world's largest car market. Meanwhile India's car market is only a fraction of US even in 2023. I mean at this point India should at least have reached parity with US in car sales.

The rupee keeps going down.

It is like the Mexican peso.

Dollar hegemony works. Oppression works.

Whether that is good or bad, that depends on your point of view.

Of course it is not fair. But it being good or bad is a different question.
 

KYli

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Not sure why China allows the US to operate 12 weekly flights but only get 8 weekly flights in return. However, it is ridiculous for the US to forbid China airlines from flying through Russian airspace especially India, UAE and Singapore airlines weren't require to do so.
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A dispute over airline routes between the US and China has emerged as a further sticking point in efforts to improve relations between the countries after Joe Biden and Xi Jinping agreed stabilising ties was necessary in November. The US has offered to grant Chinese airlines the same number of weekly flights between both countries as American carriers — but only if they agree not to fly over Russia, according to six people familiar with the talks. Moscow banned US carriers from flying over the country after Washington prohibited Russian airlines from flying to the US in the wake of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Chinese airlines are not banned from Russian airspace. US carriers have 12 weekly flights to China, while Chinese airlines have eight to the US. The American carriers face higher fuel costs than their Chinese rivals whose routes over Russia to the US are much shorter. US airlines have lobbied the Biden administration not to grant China more flights because of the cost gap.

The shorter route over Russia also allows Chinese carriers the advantage of flying directly to the US east coast. One Chinese embassy official said Beijing’s proposal to equalise weekly flight numbers — to give both sides 12 — was “quite reasonable”. He blamed Washington for the stalemate in the negotiations, saying China did not accept that its carriers should have to avoid flying over Russia. “The slow progress at the moment is not what we want to see. Frankly speaking, the responsibility lies with the US side,” the official said. “An issue between the US and Russia is not one between the US and China, even less should it be used as a basis for demanding the so-called ‘reciprocity’.”

The Chinese diplomat added that Xi and Biden had agreed on the need for more people-to-people exchanges between the countries when the leaders met at the G20 summit in Bali in November and stressed that more flights were needed to meet that goal. But US carriers, with the support of some members of Congress, want the Biden administration to resist granting the Chinese airlines more flights. American Airlines chief Robert Isom this week told CNBC there could not be an “unlevel playing field”. “We have to have the ability to fly the same lengths and not burn more fuel and add time on,” he said. But he added that he was hopeful Beijing and Washington would find a solution given there was a “lot of demand”.

The National Security Council and Department of State declined to comment on the status of the US-China negotiations. But an NSC spokesperson said they were “aware” of the concerns from the US airlines. “It cannot be business as usual with Russia in the face of Russia’s illegal war of aggression in Ukraine,” the NSC spokesperson said. The dispute is the latest thorn in the side of US-China relations, which have hit their worst state since the nations normalised ties in 1979. After Bali, US secretary of state Antony Blinken was scheduled to fly to Beijing, but he cancelled his trip after a suspected Chinese spy balloon flew over the US. The Chinese official said another reason not to accept the US condition about circumventing Russia was that airlines from other countries, such as India and the UAE, flew over Russia without facing repercussions in the US.

“We hope the US side can refrain from politicising the issue and consult with us for a proper solution,” he said. One American airline executive said US carriers were also pushing back because Chinese carriers cared more about the prestige of multiple flights than having full planes. He said that put US carriers at a disadvantage since they wanted to operate fewer, but fuller, flights to ensure profitably. China wants to increase the number of business visitors as it tries to woo investment from foreign companies after ending its zero-Covid policy. Beijing ultimately wants to see a big increase in the number of flights between the countries but has proposed an increase of four for now.

Recommended US-China relations US Chamber of Commerce warns of rising risk of doing business in China Suzanne Clark speaks at an event Steve Saxon, head of the Asia travel practice at McKinsey, suggested that one reason US carriers resisted an overall rise in their own flights to China was that they were not suffering from the relatively low number. “US carriers . . . are short on capacity because of a lack of aircraft and pilots, and are fully deployed on profitable domestic and transatlantic routes,” said Saxon, adding that South Korean and Japanese carriers were winning from the US-China impasse. Underscoring the slow uptick in flights between the countries, the number of scheduled flights from China to the US in March was only 6 per cent of the level in March 2019 before the Covid-19 pandemic, according to aviation data and advisory provider Ishka Global. In comparison, flights from China to Europe recovered to 23 per cent of their March 2019 level. A
 

Moonscape

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Not sure why China allows the US to operate 12 weekly flights but only get 8 weekly flights in return. However, it is ridiculous for the US to forbid China airlines from flying through Russian airspace especially India, UAE and Singapore airlines weren't require to do so.

China is cutting US airlines' flights back to 8x weekly, starting in May. See
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AA's DFW-PVG has already been cut to 2x weekly from 4x

DL's 2x weekly DTW-PVG is being ended on 5/17, leaving DL with 2x weekly SEA-PVG

UA's 4x weekly SFO-PVG is untouched

During 2021 and 2022, both sides had 8x weekly flights. In early 2023, China allowed US airlines to increase to 12x weekly, but the US DOT refused to reciprocate, so China is being forced to revert.
 
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Chevalier

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Most of them approved for promotion by the western MSM are women, small but critical difference.

Western MSM and Hollywood have been hyper insecure about anything remotely like promoting strong male Chinese role models. It’s little wonder they would balk at the idea of promoting male Chinese traitors. Gordon Chang only gets a pass because he looks far more Caucasians than Chinese.

The few Chinese males that pass the western MSM sampling to be able to promote without risking damaging fragile western male egos are the likes of Josh Wong, who make pretty pathetic role models since no one, including Josh Wong, wants to grow up to be Josh Wong.
Let it be recorded in history that the Anglo empire was so pathetic and insecure as to create “my giant of Lannister“ cope for itself and its homosexual rulers.
That Americans are starting to break this natural hormonally-determined trend and attack Asian women shows that the fear invoked in American society by China's rise has grown to a magnitude where it is causing dysfunction so deep that it affects even the most basic levels of sexual instinct.
Anglo American society is dysfunctional because they perceive all relationships in a zero sum sense, a master slave relationship. This is why Asian women in Western societies are considered consolation prizes and safety nets for otherwise involuntary celibates in the West. Status wise, a blonde haired blue eyed slim caucasoid female is considered higher than an Asian female, even if she is Zhang Ziyi.
Not sure why China allows the US to operate 12 weekly flights but only get 8 weekly flights in return. However, it is ridiculous for the US to forbid China airlines from flying through Russian airspace especially India, UAE and Singapore airlines weren't require to do so.
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A dispute over airline routes between the US and China has emerged as a further sticking point in efforts to improve relations between the countries after Joe Biden and Xi Jinping agreed stabilising ties was necessary in November. The US has offered to grant Chinese airlines the same number of weekly flights between both countries as American carriers — but only if they agree not to fly over Russia, according to six people familiar with the talks. Moscow banned US carriers from flying over the country after Washington prohibited Russian airlines from flying to the US in the wake of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Chinese airlines are not banned from Russian airspace. US carriers have 12 weekly flights to China, while Chinese airlines have eight to the US. The American carriers face higher fuel costs than their Chinese rivals whose routes over Russia to the US are much shorter. US airlines have lobbied the Biden administration not to grant China more flights because of the cost gap.

The shorter route over Russia also allows Chinese carriers the advantage of flying directly to the US east coast. One Chinese embassy official said Beijing’s proposal to equalise weekly flight numbers — to give both sides 12 — was “quite reasonable”. He blamed Washington for the stalemate in the negotiations, saying China did not accept that its carriers should have to avoid flying over Russia. “The slow progress at the moment is not what we want to see. Frankly speaking, the responsibility lies with the US side,” the official said. “An issue between the US and Russia is not one between the US and China, even less should it be used as a basis for demanding the so-called ‘reciprocity’.”

The Chinese diplomat added that Xi and Biden had agreed on the need for more people-to-people exchanges between the countries when the leaders met at the G20 summit in Bali in November and stressed that more flights were needed to meet that goal. But US carriers, with the support of some members of Congress, want the Biden administration to resist granting the Chinese airlines more flights. American Airlines chief Robert Isom this week told CNBC there could not be an “unlevel playing field”. “We have to have the ability to fly the same lengths and not burn more fuel and add time on,” he said. But he added that he was hopeful Beijing and Washington would find a solution given there was a “lot of demand”.

The National Security Council and Department of State declined to comment on the status of the US-China negotiations. But an NSC spokesperson said they were “aware” of the concerns from the US airlines. “It cannot be business as usual with Russia in the face of Russia’s illegal war of aggression in Ukraine,” the NSC spokesperson said. The dispute is the latest thorn in the side of US-China relations, which have hit their worst state since the nations normalised ties in 1979. After Bali, US secretary of state Antony Blinken was scheduled to fly to Beijing, but he cancelled his trip after a suspected Chinese spy balloon flew over the US. The Chinese official said another reason not to accept the US condition about circumventing Russia was that airlines from other countries, such as India and the UAE, flew over Russia without facing repercussions in the US.

“We hope the US side can refrain from politicising the issue and consult with us for a proper solution,” he said. One American airline executive said US carriers were also pushing back because Chinese carriers cared more about the prestige of multiple flights than having full planes. He said that put US carriers at a disadvantage since they wanted to operate fewer, but fuller, flights to ensure profitably. China wants to increase the number of business visitors as it tries to woo investment from foreign companies after ending its zero-Covid policy. Beijing ultimately wants to see a big increase in the number of flights between the countries but has proposed an increase of four for now.

Recommended US-China relations US Chamber of Commerce warns of rising risk of doing business in China Suzanne Clark speaks at an event Steve Saxon, head of the Asia travel practice at McKinsey, suggested that one reason US carriers resisted an overall rise in their own flights to China was that they were not suffering from the relatively low number. “US carriers . . . are short on capacity because of a lack of aircraft and pilots, and are fully deployed on profitable domestic and transatlantic routes,” said Saxon, adding that South Korean and Japanese carriers were winning from the US-China impasse. Underscoring the slow uptick in flights between the countries, the number of scheduled flights from China to the US in March was only 6 per cent of the level in March 2019 before the Covid-19 pandemic, according to aviation data and advisory provider Ishka Global. In comparison, flights from China to Europe recovered to 23 per cent of their March 2019 level. A
Incredible. Here’s a solution: US airliners must buy Chinese COMAC planes as a show of good faith before Boeing is ever allowed back into the Chinese market.
 
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