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tamsen_ikard said:
Kinda less meaningful these days since Western politicians are openly visiting Taiwan these days and Taiwanese ministers also visit Western countries regularly. This did not happen before. So, Taiwan under DPP has had a massive boost in terms of "diplomatic presence" in the last few years. Ofcourse it relates to how anti-China the west has become and they do not really care about offending Beijing anymore, they actually want to offend Beijing as much as they can.

China is pretty much helpless to stop Taiwan's elevation in the west. The more powerful China becomes, the more the west wants to contain and destroy China, the more they support Taiwan in every way they can. The only response China has is doing military drills.

Economic sanctions no longer works against the West because they actually WANT to decouple from China. They welcome any sanction or economic response from China because they can simply parade it as more Chinese aggression against the west and demonize China even further.

Its a death spiral that keeps going towards some kind of Taiwan strait Crisis. Cause unless China stop the constant western support and semi-recognition of Taiwan, soon we will see Taiwan Representative Offices in a lot of western countries and even more Western Arms and even troops. They will not stop Salami Slicing.

China will have to more towards some kind of massive military retaliation, cause that is the only option they have left to stop this death spiral.

The only way to stop this is to create such a massive fear in the minds of the Taiwanese that they are the ones that would discourage the west, not the other way around. That is the only way remaining.

But if this military crisis does not work and only escalates towards even more western support for Taiwan, then I think we are looking at the start of the "THE GREAT TAIWAN WAR"
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Threats to invade China really just exposes how much on the back foot America is now on.

Contrary to what US will admit, it was never confident in its ability to take over Taiwan. There were many good chances for America to pull off their version of the crimea annexation, when China was not militarised at all and the only thing China could do to stop an invasion would be to lob tactical nukes at US formations.

Even then, America didn't dare to invade.
So that they're betting their future on this, in such a late hour when China has military parity, reeks of desparation.

As long as China can prevent a pearl harbor style surprise attack against the navy followed by a fait accompli landing of US invaders on its island, moves which America was never confident of pulling off even again Jiang Zemin's China, they'll never be able to do anything.
 
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CGTN really upping their game here, look at the styling of the thumbnail, the music choice and audio cues, overall pacing, holy sh*t. This video's production quality is insane. Feels like its the start of a professional documentary. What happened? Did we steal away all the good freelancers from BBC?
 
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The West doing wonders for Zelensky.

Aren't they?

Enough said.

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They can escalate as much a possible against China with Taiwan but isn’t it meaningless if the nation has literally collapsed on the weight of all of its problems such as, bank runs, inflation making it impossible to buy basic food, society falling apart, energy problems, random train wrecks and literally wild disasters happening out of no where. Unless China has the same kind of problems that the USA has right now, I would say to the USA bring it but@h because sooner or later a massive earthquake or a volcano going off could happen if they try to transport a mass of equipment from the east to the west of the USA. Really, there fight against Russia using Ukraine as a proxy has failed to get the desired result despite the advantages they have had, what makes them think they could do the same to China if almost every single measure they have used thus far against China has failed quite miserably
 
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In my opinion, the key to this is Taiwan, not the United States (let's be frank, the EU doesn't really care about Taiwan). Taiwan and the United States have a fundamental difference of interests.

The United States wants Taiwan to become the next Ukraine.

Taiwan does not want to become the next Ukraine.

I think that this is a very key difference that can be seized upon. The United States wants a war, and it is happy to fight until all of Taiwan is a smoking wreck. So it cannot really be deterred without nuclear weapons. I thus believe that it is not really useful to talk to or pressure the United States.

However, Taiwan doesn't want to become a smoking wreck. Thus, it is quite feasible to talk to or pressure Taiwan. We see the effect in Kevin McCarthy's proposed visit to Taiwan, which - if reports are to be believed - the Taiwanese called off.

Fundamentally, Taiwan does not want to become Ukraine.
 
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This is my final determination of that Saudi Arabia and Iran peace deal broker by China. For now at least.

In short, it changes the Middle East for the worst, and it changes West Asia for the better, a much brighter future awaits if they provide earnest efforts to that end.

Remember President Nixon in China shaking the hand of Chairman Mao Zedong? That changed the world.

One side of that triangle got the short end of the stick.

That is exactly what happened here, on a smaller scale, as this will change the course of history for West Asia as region.

One side of this triangle got the short end of the stick.

And they never saw it coming.

Simply put, what strategic geniuses.

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Never saw it coming.

The signs of friction with the old arrangements were all there, but they never saw it coming.


 
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luminary said:
CGTN really upping their game here, look at the style of the thumbnail, the music choice and audio cues, overall pacing, holy sh*t. This video's production quality is insane. Feels like its the start of a professional documentary. What happened? Did we steal away all the good freelancers from BBC?
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This black guy is a genius. Agree with him on everything. However, the US is working toward forcing Xi Jinping and CCP to reclaim Taiwan, or else they are going to lose support domestically in China due to people's nationalistic spirit. They are forcing Xi's hand.

If such things as weapons sales to Taiwan and powerful officials of Taiwan and the US going back and forth there persist, or if they, I don't know, make some giant military exercises between Taiwan and the US, it's going to make people in China angrier and angrier.

Xi and CCP are rational, and they would like to take back Taiwan with 100% certainty in 2035 for example, however, it seems that the US is forcing them to take Taiwan with 75% certainty in 2027. For the US it's better 25% chance of victory than a 0% chance of victory.

And as for why they didn't act earlier, it's because of their imperial hubris, "American exceptionalism" and other bullshit, basically, before they underestimated and mocked China always before China grew to such an extent now that they can't do anything to stop it and gamble.
 
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tamsen_ikard said:
Kinda less meaningful these days since Western politicians are openly visiting Taiwan these days and Taiwanese ministers also visit Western countries regularly. This did not happen before. So, Taiwan under DPP has had a massive boost in terms of "diplomatic presence" in the last few years.
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Kinda meaningless for DPP to get "massive boost" in "diplomatic presence" in the west only to get trounced in elections at home.
 
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It does look like it is official. Honduras would switch recognition to officially establish diplomatic relationship with China.
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"Taiwan could lose another Latin American ally, Paraguay, if the opposition wins the presidential election in late April.

Paraguay would cut ties with Taiwan and open relations with China, the opposition's presidential candidate Efrain Alegre has said, hoping to boost important soy and beef exports".
 
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Taiwan is not going any where. That’s the most important aspect of this story. As long as China continues modernizing, breaks free from Western dependence, and solves its own problems like demographics, it has all the time in the world.

There is no “urgency,” nor is there anything the West can do about it. I mean, they can recognize Taiwan’s independence all they want. As long as China doesn’t, there’s nothing the West can do about the eventual Chinese play on Taiwan. What are they going to be able to do in the future that they couldn’t do before? How will Chinese action be constrained more in the future just because the West and its allies decide Taiwan is “independent?”

Independence is a formality; the actual underlying dynamic is that China is becoming more powerful in East Asia while the West is becoming less powerful. China’s options are increasing while the West’s are decreasing. So long as that’s the case, Western political threats on Taiwan are completely irrelevant, because recognition is useless without power.

This is why I always focus on domestic self improvements and the importance of building a powerful internal system.

The rest will follow.
 
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luminary said:
CGTN really upping their game here, look at the styling of the thumbnail, the music choice and audio cues, overall pacing, holy sh*t. This video's production quality is insane. Feels like its the start of a professional documentary. What happened? Did we steal away all the good freelancers from BBC?
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Mr. Garland Nixon really has his finger on the pulse of things.

Very good.

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Seems to me, propaganda has changed.

Before, it always used to be a hard sell.

Now it is more like a soft sell.

Sprinkle in some images, and then try to appeal to the same hot button issues, pushing those same buttons.

This is a pretty good example of US propaganda nowadays.

Of course, I do not like the message, as that message sucks donkey balls. However, the images were nice. It was a real flash back to see pictures of Imeda's shoes.

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