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xlitter

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We know for sure China is giving what US calls "non-lethal aid" to Russia via trade. We know for a fact that Russia is getting small stuff like bullet proof plates, MREs, gun sights, radios etc. Probably more critical stuff like chips and small engines too. All of them more or less contribute to Russian war effort.

While we can here discuss things like does this thing count as lethal or non-lethal aid, and if a UCAV is lethal aid what about its demilitarised version, or if it's parted out does that still count as lethal aid. However that's not how it works between countries, there's no court or lawyers between countries to determine this. Instead if you got the hard power to back up your words you can just accuse the other guy of something with the flimsiest evidence and the other guy can't do anything about it, as we've already seen with Iraq.

So does the US at this time want to rally up their allies to enact sanction on China? Probably. The lethal aid thing is just an excuse. The fact that they are now saying there's no evidence is not actually relevant because lethal aid was an excuse to start with, rather the no evidence I think shows the hard power to enact this global sanction is not there.
Fire drones, absolute civilian equipment
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Sardaukar20

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This is the most plain welcoming of a foreign minister that I have seen, and that's coming from a powerful country that's China.

Is India being petty or am I overthinking things.

A very plain welcome party for any foreign minister.

Nevertheless, when Anthony Blinken arrived, the Indian welcome party wasn't much of an improvement either:

Maybe India is on a budget with its G20 event? So no red carpet welcomes for foreign ministers.
 

Sardaukar20

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they're making joke again
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I just think that the US is basically setting up a multi-nation sanctions package on China. By hyping up that China is sending arms to Russia. That means that there is a 90% chance that they are gonna sanction China anyways, regardless of whether China actually did it or not. All the drama and hype is to build a case for those sanctions.

That Uighur slave labor BS story worked quite well. Chinese firms in Xinjiang were sanctioned, and many Xinjiang products were banned in the West.

I suspect that the US is seeking to sanction and weaken Chinese firms that were directly or indirectly involved in the defense industry. The US should want to cut them off from Western financing, material shipments, and other stuff. For example, cutting off Chinese shipyards from European-made marine engines. Or blocking specific ores from being exported to China.

I'm curious to see what justification the US and friends will use when they finally pull the sanctions trigger. Maybe the US gets the Ukrainians to recover a drone wreck and say that it's electronics were made in China. Then more sanctions on China's semiconductor industry. Or maybe the US might cook up a story with ASPI that China covertly shipped artillery shells to Russia. Then initiate a kind of global ban on certain ore shipments to China.
 
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Michaelsinodef

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I just think that the US is basically setting up a multi-nation sanctions package on China. By hyping up that China is sending arms to Russia. That means that there is a 90% chance that they are gonna sanction China anyways, regardless of whether China actually did it or not. All the drama and hype is to build a case for those sanctions.

That Uighur slave labor BS story worked quite well. Chinese firms in Xinjiang were sanctioned, and many Xinjiang products were banned in the West.

I suspect that the US is seeking to sanction and weaken Chinese firms that were directly or indirectly involved in the defense industry. The US should want to cut them off from Western financing, material shipments, and other stuff. For example, cutting off Chinese shipyards from European-made marine engines. Or blocking specific ores from being exported to China.

I'm curious to see what justification the US and friends will use when they finally pull the sanctions trigger. Maybe the US gets the Ukrainians to recover a drone wreck and say that it's electronics were made in China. Then more sanctions on China's semiconductor industry. Or maybe the US might cook up a story with ASPI that China covertly shipped artillery shells to Russia. Then initiate a kind of global ban on certain ore shipments to China.
?? There's DJI drones in use by Russia already, and have been for a long time (also used by Ukraine as well).

As for trying to actually enact some kind of global ban on a certain ore? Good luck trying to do that lol.
 

TK3600

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Filipinos only respect and fear Europeans and Americans. As I have interacted with them for 20 years this is utmost true, this is their attitude to ASEAN countries and you can see the psychology behind American bases in their countries. They do not believe anyone outside of the western hemisphere exert influence or innovation.
So you are saying Philipine is a big Hong Kong? I remember looking Chinese and the Hong Kong airport staff was rude to me, but then I showed my Canadian passport and their attitude immediately change.
 

Sardaukar20

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?? There's DJI drones in use by Russia already, and have been for a long time (also used by Ukraine as well).

As for trying to actually enact some kind of global ban on a certain ore? Good luck trying to do that lol.
It doesn't matter. The US doesn't care that there were DJI drones used by Russia and Ukraine for one year already. The US just wants to create a sanctions regime on the Chinese defense industry and it's supporting industries. If DJI is suddenly a concern now, then the US is just gonna sanction it.

Yes the US will try to enact a kind of ban on exports to China. Be it ore, intermediary products, and other stuff. Will it be successful? Hell no! But that won't stop the US from trying it anyways. There were already historical precedents, like Huawei, Xinjiang, and ASML.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I just think that the US is basically setting up a multi-nation sanctions package on China. By hyping up that China is sending arms to Russia. That means that there is a 90% chance that they are gonna sanction China anyways, regardless of whether China actually did it or not. All the drama and hype is to build a case for those sanctions.

That Uighur slave labor BS story worked quite well. Chinese firms in Xinjiang were sanctioned, and many Xinjiang products were banned in the West.

I suspect that the US is seeking to sanction and weaken Chinese firms that were directly or indirectly involved in the defense industry. The US should want to cut them off from Western financing, material shipments, and other stuff. For example, cutting off Chinese shipyards from European-made marine engines. Or blocking specific ores from being exported to China.

I'm curious to see what justification the US and friends will use when they finally pull the sanctions trigger. Maybe the US gets the Ukrainians to recover a drone wreck and say that it's electronics were made in China. Then more sanctions on China's semiconductor industry. Or maybe the US might cook up a story with ASPI that China covertly shipped artillery shells to Russia. Then initiate a kind of global ban on certain ore shipments to China.
None of this matters when Chinese trade numbers - including from Xinjiang - just keep going up and up.
 

siegecrossbow

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A very plain welcome party for any foreign minister.

Nevertheless, when Anthony Blinken arrived, the Indian welcome party wasn't much of an improvement either:

Maybe India is on a budget with its G20 event? So no red carpet welcomes for foreign ministers.

Maybe they blew the budget on the slum concealment walls.

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