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plawolf said:

I’m pretty sure China is actively trolling the US now and encouraging it to look like the boy who cries wolf.

At the same time, I cannot help but think China is teaming up with Russia to do some mole hunting, since the Russian side seems to leak like a net right now.

Send various suspected generals and officials to China to tour various facilities and see what the Americans accuse China of considering selling to the Russians and you will have a pretty good idea who the CIA assets are.

The CIA at least, are not all replaced by political appointed idiots, so they are not publishing every little detail. But without details, they just look like idiots telling blatant lies. A little more Twitter trolling and Biden might just release details to prove he isn’t lying and throw their Russian assets under the bus for cheap political points.

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TK3600 said:

This is an standard appropriate response to a trap question. Confirming or denying the bait question lock down your negotiation position. The right answer is to say fuck off. This is basically what happened.

So no, refuse to provide answer does not mean yes. It can be "maybe". There is a strong argument for why "maybe" is a better option than yes.

Remember China can provide a lot of aid short of weapon support that can totally tilt the balance. Intelligence, sensor, industrial, discount civilian products, money.

Russia being helped by Chinese direct military aid greatly tarnish their brand. Considering their military industry rely on export mostly this is a very expensive option. Therefore a more invisible kind of military aid is ideal.

That said direct military aid must remain on the table. Ukraine will be compeled to negotiate if Russia could be backed up by big Chinese direct military aid. Sure it looks ugly on Russia, but Ukraine don't care. It is a life or death consideration for Ukraine, and Russia alone is already bad enough. The "maybe" here serves as a stick without consequence of using it. If China can offer a fair deal as a carrot then it is a very compelling offer for Ukraine. Evidently Zelensky is cracking at this offer.

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Serb said:

I agree with you, but only in the current situation. If Russia, however, start losing the war, then China would probably send them weapons.

Russians would have no other choice then, well they could still do tactical nuclear strikes, but is too much of a taboo, even China would probably stop supporting Russia after that.

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Temstar said:

Consider this:

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Sullivan again warning that there will be cost if China provide weapon to Russia. We've heard that from all sorts of people from the US, that's not the meat of what I'm posting.

This statement from Sullivan has interestingly been taken by both pro-Ukraine and pro-Russian side on weibo to be showing something substantial is really happening between China and Russia. First the seething

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Blah blah we'll become North Korea, etc etc.

Ayi from Guancha who sometimes has inside information also see all the noise from US as

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. He is hinting that some sort of deal really did go down and was not backed off despite US warning. That just as US says it was indeed testing them right up to the red line and all the promise of "no lethal aid" would depend on what your definition of what a "weapon" means. In this case he's quite pleased that China stepped right on top of the red line and US responded by pretending it didn't happen and just keep issuing those warnings. They did not in fact sanction any new Chinese entities on their new sanctions issued on Feb 24th.

What do you guys think it was? I'm still guessing civilian "demilitarized" version of UCAVs.
We haven't seen much sign of Russian Orion UCAV in action. Are they actually being used quietly or they're not a factor in this war?

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