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Overbom

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China should give Taiwanese the opportunity to make the correct choice and vote out DPP next year.
There is never going to be given a "choice" for the Taiwanese people to vote freely.

The US excels at manipulating the public. Expect a big "crisis" manufactured by the US end of 2023/start of 2024 to make them vote for the DPP again.
Recall how the DPP was previously a dumpster fire, then the US played the HK card, and suddenly DPP was reelected lol

The decision of who is going to be next president of Taiwan will be made in Washington D.C, and then executed at Langley, Virginia
 

vincent

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I was waiting for the evidence to be revealed, but now I realize there is no evidence...
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There is some Thinking, not actually Doing...
The scary thing is, if the US knows what China is thinking, then they have Professor X on their side... Jean Grey at the very least...
It's just a dirty trick played by Blinky. If China doesn't send arms to Russia after the warning, Blinky can say "See, my warning work! I'm the big boss!"
 

pmc

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I doubt the Ukrainians will consider Hungarians to be neutral. Orban has referred to Zelensky as an enemy, and has brought up the oppression of ethnic Hungarians in the Ukraine.

America considers them not a "democracy", and the EU have sanctioned them even before the war started.
It will not be upto Ukrainians once things reached that stage. human and physical capital will be completely exhausted.
It will be in German interest to dump this issue on China and deflect the topic to uniting Europe behind US to deal with Asia.
Germany perfectly knows that this Euro-Atlantic sanctions have considerably weaken Japan/Korea. easily up to $500b trade deficit expected this year combined.
now Germany will expand at expense of them and create more opening behind scenes to Russia.

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Stierlitz

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There is never going to be given a "choice" for the Taiwanese people to vote freely.

The US excels at manipulating the public. Expect a big "crisis" manufactured by the US end of 2023/start of 2024 to make them vote for the DPP again.
Recall how the DPP was previously a dumpster fire, then the US played the HK card, and suddenly DPP was reelected lol

The decision of who is going to be next president of Taiwan will be made in Washington D.C, and then executed at Langley, Virginia
What do you think U.S. could do to influence Taiwanese public opinion ? They already played the HK card. Perhaps a Biden visit before the election and daring China to react ?
 

taxiya

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I doubt the Ukrainians will consider Hungarians to be neutral. Orban has referred to Zelensky as an enemy, and has brought up the oppression of ethnic Hungarians in the Ukraine.

America considers them not a "democracy", and the EU have sanctioned them even before the war started.
Of course neither Ukraine nor America like Hungary, but it is the only one in Europe that is in the position who can talk to both sides. EU certainly does not like the idea of an outside country to mediate Europe's dispute which would be slapping on EU's pride, except US (once did in former Yugoslavia) but is now the leading fighting party unacceptable by Russia as mediator.
 

Overbom

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What do you think U.S. could do to influence Taiwanese public opinion ?
I don't know because there are too many ways to manufacture a crisis. To be honest, the US can either do something by its own or use its minions, so I am sure they could think of something.

Of its minions, maybe the US organising a mass Western-wide widely-propaganda covered delegation to visit Taiwan could be one of the many options.

Don't take this too seriously, just something that came up in my mind in under 1 minute. I am certain that the US already has a lot of plans to manufacture a made-up fake crisis to make the Taiwanese vote for DPP

Perhaps a Biden visit before the election and daring China to react ?
I don't think so, seems way too risky. After all the risk/reward ratio doesn't work on this one. Risk a hegemonic clash erupting for making the Taiwanese public vote for the DPP...

Not worth it, the Taiwanese public are pawns. They exist to be sacrificed for the chess player to win, not the other way around, of the chess player potentially entering a life-and-death battle for the sake of a disposable pawn.
 

Biscuits

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What do you think U.S. could do to influence Taiwanese public opinion ? They already played the HK card. Perhaps a Biden visit before the election and daring China to react ?
Public opinion doesn't matter. America can force the issue because this isn't a public opinion contest, its the leadership choices of an US sponsored warlord. But if America makes a poor choice, it could cause unrest, which will of course harm the chances of an useful auxiliary force when they start a SMO later.

China will have to handle the overall situation with care, because US staked so much of its national prospects on building this case of annexation. However, precisely because they staked so much, this will greatly backfire in the form of a domino effect on America if they fail. They've effectively tied their national fate to a foreign warlord that is a mere 150km from the Chinese Mainland.

So while it is the more just option to just kill whichever American intrudes into the country, it's not the way China can maximize the potentials in the situation. Instead, China must build its own case that both dismantles the massive investments America has made in their own case, and will at the same time capitalize on the payoff once all bets are off to push America as far back as possible in one sweep.

Ideally China can use the momentum from a defensive war to perhaps counter annex American territory and/or force the dissolution of American client states. By casting America as an instigator of war in "peaceful Asia", it will be possible to force former US dependencies to reject US publicly. Alternatively, it will cause the more fanatic among them, for example Japan and the Philippines to double down, which means conversely China can rally their historic enemies in ASEAN and Korea into a tight bloc.

Mainland China depends nothing on Taiwan in terms of materials, industry or even gdp, which means it can essentially be employed in a Stalingrad strategy, where all the fascist armies of Asia will be drawn into a meat grinder with the promise of "a breakthrough" against China if they win, even as the status of Taiwan does not really impact the status of the mainland. By the time their invasion fleets have all been sunk, there home territories will lay wide open. Just like how German territorial greed led to all of East Europe coming under Soviet rule, the greed of America could open a similar path to China, which would otherwise be unthinkable.

All of that would depend on how well China can build it's "case" of both enticing America but at the same time ensuring they are deterred enough to not do anything before the right preparations are finished.
 
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FriedButter

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Another Clinton associate "suicide" via hanging and gun shot, but no gun found anywhere near the body

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Was it one shot or seven?

One Shot… One shotgun blast to the chest at close range.

I am sure the sheriff will also say they found pieces of a shotgun digested in his stomach.

Still, the sheriff initially stated the cause of death was suicide. “He found a tree and he pulled a table over there, and he got on that table, and he took an extension cord and put it around a limb, put it around his neck and he shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.”
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siegecrossbow

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One Shot… One shotgun blast to the chest at close range.

I am sure the sheriff will also say they found pieces of a shotgun digested in his stomach.


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What is this, Loony Toons?

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