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Overlord said:

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It's not that speech is from zelensky , Biden is in Kiev and met with zelensky so he is just speaking America's perspective. It will not be easy for china to be an ally with russia, just no limit partnership had even raised concern even in EU . Well things will only go bad for china especially in western world. Expect more sanction on china and diversifying of supply chain away from china.

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Apple is finding out first hand how messy it is to set up factories in India. 1 in 2 devices manufactured with significant defects lmao. I think the Malaysian Youtubers who identified a way to find out where the iPhone was manufactured were really foresighted, I wouldn't wanna buy any Apple product made in Jai Hind land either. India is a lost case, in one week the US/UK shorted Adani (your country's most valuable & corrupt company) and mocked dear leader Modi but here you are as usual saying "Things will go bad for China while we sit here and reap the benefits". Jai Hind copium indeed.

Temstar said:

I wouldn't entirely rule out China selling weapon sub components to Russia.

I'm listening to Guanqi right now about this, apparently there's an unspoken sentence after this:
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"And even if we sell weapons, that's entirely normal trade between two sovereign countries and legal, unless Security Council has a resolution outlawing it".

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What kind of military hardware would Russia even want to buy from China?

Why are Indians so ashamed of displaying their own country on forums? It is always Nepal or Bhutan but never India. Are those two countries that much more prestigious than India?

siegecrossbow said:

Are those two countries that much more prestigious than India?

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Yes.

siegecrossbow said:

Let me make it clear, I still think that the invasion of Ukraine is a boneheaded and poorly throughout decision. But it would be even more boneheaded for China to create an antagonistic nuclear power up north by allowing the boneheads to collapse.

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siegecrossbow said:

After the example of the Song Dynasty Chinese leadership would be complete morons if they gave in to pressure and tried to kick the Russians while they are down.

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Jin took Song territory but could coexist with Song. Jin had all the trappings of a Chinese state and the Jin emperor referred to the Song emperor as elder brother.

Mongol cannot coexist with either Jin or Song as they believed they were the rightful Khans of the entire world.

Temstar said:

Surely things like opening the tap on ISR support could be argued to be "non-lethal" and easy to keep a low profile while boosting Russian capability tremendously?

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Satellite-based ISR support to Russia (or at least the Wagner Group) is allegedly already a thing according to the US. So if China wants, they can definitely expand their satellite-based ISR support to the Russian military through those already sanctioned companies. Besides, satellite-based ISR support is less visible and less open to the naked eye, so there is more clause of deniability.

Regarding aerial-based ISR, I'm not sure how China is gonna keep it low profile if, say, one day, a Russian civilian photographed a KJ-200 in PLAAF colours flying above Belgorod. So that's not exactly a good idea.

On the other hand, for ISR drones, WZ-7 and WZ-10 would be good candidates. However, Russia is not known to operate any AEW drones like the WZ-9 and JY-300, and considering that NATO members are looking to provide fighter jets to Ukraine, so I think they would also be a good addition. Though, I think significant training for Russian AEW crews are required if they are to be paired with the A-50.

ACuriousPLAFan said:

Satellite-based ISR support to Russia (or at least the Wagner Group) is allegedly already a thing according to the US. So if China wants, they can definitely expand their satellite-based ISR support to the Russian military through those already sanctioned companies. Besides, satellite-based ISR support is less visible and less open to the naked eye, so there is more clause of denialibility.

Regarding aerial-based ISR, I'm not sure how China is gonna keep it low profile if, say, one day, a Russian photographed a KJ-200 in PLAAF colours flying above Belgorod. So that's not exactly a good idea.

On the other hand, for ISR drones, WZ-7 would be a good candidate. However, Russia is not known to have AEW drones like the WZ-9 and JY-300, and considering that NATO members are looking to provide fighter jets to Ukraine, so I think they would also be a good addition. Though, I think significant training for Russian AEW crews are required if they are to be paired with the A-50.

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For airborne ISR drones, a possibility is contract manufacturing of 'Russian designs' arrived at by generous consulting from private sector, with Chinese components shipped as knockdown kits to Russia. This is recorded as "civilian machinery components" exports.

If they happen to be assembled in Russia, and possibly modified for military use, it's understandable as China has poor capability to track its exports outside Chinese borders.

FairAndUnbiased said:

For airborne ISR drones, a possibility is contract manufacturing of 'Russian designs' arrived at by generous consulting from private sector, with Chinese components shipped as knockdown kits to Russia. This is recorded as "civilian machinery components" exports.

If they happen to be assembled in Russia, and possibly modified for military use, it's understandable as China has poor capability to track its exports outside Chinese borders.

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didn't patchwork say that drones' attrition rate is very high given the widespread presence of air defence systems? even if the russians were to delocalise production, they'd be shot down once in ukraine

FairAndUnbiased said:

For airborne ISR drones, a possibility is contract manufacturing of 'Russian designs' arrived at by generous consulting from private sector, with Chinese components shipped as knockdown kits to Russia. This is recorded as "civilian machinery components" exports.

If they happen to be assembled in Russia, and possibly modified for military use, it's understandable as China has poor capability to track its exports outside Chinese borders.

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I think that is what's happening with some of the newer Russian drones like "KUB". Russian companies develop and design a prototype around a Russian made warhead or payload, build components like the airframe and shell domestically and contract a chinese company to manufacture electronics, powerplant and whatever else. All using technology available on the civilian market.

It's pretty much what all western manufacturing is these days.

ACuriousPLAFan said:

egarding aerial-based ISR, I'm not sure how China is gonna keep it low profile if, say, one day, a Russian civilian photographed a KJ-200 in PLAAF colours flying above Belgorod. So that's not exactly a good idea.

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KJ-2000 could easily be repainted like an A-50U, with the most obvious giveaway being the refueling probe and the fins at the rear.