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hashtagpls

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A small power should know her place instead of challenging a superpower only to turn around and cry victim.
That is the fundemantal rule of this western-led world order we are in.
Access to FVEYEs intelligence and the misplaced expectation that the white anglo US will not throw white anglo Australia to the wolves, gives Australian leaders outsized and unrealistic perceptions of their own strengths and weaknesses. In that sense, they are similar to Indians.
 

Petrolicious88

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The temptation for europeans to side with fellow white nations, especially amongst the "race realists" can prove to be too great. For that, China should ensure Europe pays a heavy price for white supremacy, much like what Australia is only now beginning to experience.
The part is few Asian nations or politicians want to form similar alliances with China. I have always said China needs to form alliances based on shared interests and values. These alliances needs to be based on more than just trade or Chinese loans.
 

vincent

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At least the Australian government didn't disappear the first people that reported it and then forced them to make a televised confession that it was all lies propagated by "foreign agents".

Personally there's nothing wrong with Chinese people feeling upset about what happened, but a Chinese diplomat acting outraged is a bit of a joke. People in glass houses, and all that.

Haha.. Aussie did make the whistleblower disappear into the afterlife

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plawolf

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The part is few Asian nations or politicians want to form similar alliances with China. I have always said China needs to form alliances based on shared interests and values. These alliances needs to be based on more than just trade or Chinese loans.

Despite western moaning about China pursuing a ‘Wolf warrior’ kind of hard power diplomacy (one really wonders if any of the people using that term have even seen the film, as it’s quite laughable that anyone who has would use it in the pejorative way they use the term, as almost a stand-in for western style regime change and colonialism rolled into one), the reality is that China is still essentially following the same principle as set out by Deng of hiding one’s strength and biding one’s time.

The only difference is that China, under Xi, is actually staying more true to what Deng originally planned, which was to defend one’s interests vigorously, but not to go out looking for trouble (remember Deng was in charge for both the Sino-Vietnam wars and was famous for giving the British Iron Lady such a hard time during negotiations over HK she literally stumbled and fell afterwards); as opposed to the near total spinelessness of the Jiang and Hu years.

Which just goes to show the absolute futility of trying appeasement with the west, since they are all bullies at heart, so if you give them an inch as an act of goodwill, they will quickly grow to expect that as the norm, and just demand even more concessions for nothing in return and come to think that is the most normal and natural things in the world.
 

Breadbox

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They were rarely in the receiving end as they are used to giving out to others.
The Chinese must be surprised to see the Aussies to be such thin-skinned. Even superpower US will not behave in this manner.

Watch the anglos as they jump up and down at the mere thought of being on the receiving end of what they themselves normalised.

They need to suck it up and get used to it.
 

ougoah

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LOL Good on China for playing around with the fools. China's just toying with Australia but the subtext everyone's missed is that this clearly intentional provocative action is clearly intentional! Does that indicate something??

Answer; China wants Australia to know it's done for and it's now beyond the event horizon. Normal operations and play is over. Playing with its food is intentionally disrespectful in the same way Australia's been disrespectful but totally without any means to actually play the next level of this game. If this was all by design, then the CCP is truly a masterful planner. It could also be an extremely disappointing low brow attempt at shit flinging this time just from the CCP instead of the usual suspects.

Maybe China is going to send the Australian economy to its natural deserved state whatever it may be by slowly decoupling in a way that it can and the US was not able to. The secret lies in the type of economies they have and what they actually do. Not western soundbytes and chest thumper ego talk.
 

ougoah

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Let's not forget some things though. Australia ACTUALLY allowed and facilitated these war crimes. China is presented as conducting cultural genocide because it has some iffy programs that address its sovereign internal issue with jihadists and other extremists.

The US ACTUALLY lied and admitted they lied about Iraqi WMDs. They've ACTUALLY committed mass murder of civilians all over the middle east for decades and continue to incite unrest and political conflicts. China is accused of responding to real acts or terror on its soil by creating unclear programs that different sides claim are different things. The US and cronies are devilishly cunning when it comes to managing this sort of propaganda. China is quite pathetic at combating them and rely only on its ability to maintain internal stability and thus economic prosperity to progress its own agendas.

How the usual western chauvinists cry and bitch about this while they've literally been murdering children and proclaiming their exceptionalism and infallibility for decades. This time China should tell Australia to lighten up. In fact the portrayal is even accurate, fair, and truthful. Quite different to their accusations of China.
 

j17wang

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Let's not forget some things though. Australia ACTUALLY allowed and facilitated these war crimes. China is presented as conducting cultural genocide because it has some iffy programs that address its sovereign internal issue with jihadists and other extremists.

The US ACTUALLY lied and admitted they lied about Iraqi WMDs. They've ACTUALLY committed mass murder of civilians all over the middle east for decades and continue to incite unrest and political conflicts. China is accused of responding to real acts or terror on its soil by creating unclear programs that different sides claim are different things. The US and cronies are devilishly cunning when it comes to managing this sort of propaganda. China is quite pathetic at combating them and rely only on its ability to maintain internal stability and thus economic prosperity to progress its own agendas.

How the usual western chauvinists cry and bitch about this while they've literally been murdering children and proclaiming their exceptionalism and infallibility for decades. This time China should tell Australia to lighten up. In fact the portrayal is even accurate, fair, and truthful. Quite different to their accusations of China.

I hope CGTN and Xinhua can pump this through middle east news as well as through Indonesian, Pakistan, and Iranian news. This deserves as much protests as the arab protests against Macron.
 
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