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ZeEa5KPul

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Lethe said:
At all levels of the US government, across both political parties, we are witnessing a concerted, relentless effort to strangle China and prevent her from attaining technological independence
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Trying and failing. The only thing the US is succeeding in doing is ensuring China's industrial policy and technological independence program succeed. If the US truly wanted to prevent China from attaining technological independence, it would have flooded China with the technology it's trying to keep it from developing to kneecap the government's drives.

Immersion DUVL and EUVL aren't magic. China is already most of the way there it's just a matter of a few years until it's all the way there.
Lethe said:
while many of America's most senior military figures now speak openly of war with China, and soon
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While China's nuclear arsenal expands by leaps and bounds. China already has conventional overmatch in the FIC and will soon have true MAD at the strategic level. No war starts unless China starts it.
Lethe said:
and indeed for both moral and strategic reasons I think Beijing should go a long way to avoid it.
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The only thing Beijing should do is have the shotgun ready to blast the US in the face if it steps out of line. If avoiding war is indeed the goal, deterrence is the best way to ensure it.
 
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MortyandRick

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escobar said:
They are quite capable of doing what they claim; they also may well be lying. Now you can choose to believe the one that make you feel better, lol
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Look who's taking bud. I should say the same for you regarding Chinese MFA statements as well.

And whether they are truly capable as you claim. Well only time will tell. I wonder why they didn't shot it down in Alaska when it was supposedly discovered ? Why spend all that time tracking and applying electronic jamming ? Sounds like they were trying to save face.
 
Maikeru

Maikeru

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A couple of thoughts on the balloon.

If it was a spy balloon, its mission was completed by the time it was shot down. Shooting it down was a pointless and unnecessary waste of money.

Also, if the US knew about this "gross violation of its sovereignty" on 28th January, why did Blinken wait until yesterday to cancel his trip to China?
 
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Chevalier

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ZeEa5KPul said:
With each day that passes, I become more convinced that the US is becoming India. Everything the US has done during its hilarious balloon tantrum is exactly what India would have done. The only difference is that India would have shot down a bunch of its own assets trying to shoot down the balloon, so the US does still maintain a modicum of military competence.
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It's such similar predictive behaviour, i'm convinced there's something in the genetic memory of Indo-European homo sapiens that makes them gullible and susceptible to loquacious BS artists- maybe religious god kings had to use BS to keep order. It's actually very striking to the Galwan incident where indian media made stuff up to suit their paranoid narrative.

In the meantime, American neocons furiously cry that they are the king and no one better touch them.
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ZeEa5KPul

ZeEa5KPul

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Chevalier said:
In the meantime, American neocons furiously cry that they are the king and no one better touch them.
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I'm not going to read some WSJ opinion writer's deranged rambling, but I will dismiss his asinine comparison with a simple question: What percentage of world GDP were Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan and what's China's percentage today?
 
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siegecrossbow

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Chevalier said:
It's such similar predictive behaviour, i'm convinced there's something in the genetic memory of Indo-European homo sapiens that makes them gullible and susceptible to loquacious BS artists- maybe religious god kings had to use BS to keep order. It's actually very striking to the Galwan incident where indian media made stuff up to suit their paranoid narrative.

In the meantime, American neocons furiously cry that they are the king and no one better touch them.
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