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You see what you guys did with your jokes? Now they're onto comrade Ma Yilong.
>Chinese accounts also jumped on the bandwagon. While Beijing blocks Twitter for its domestic audience, the country's officials and state media have repeatedly used the platform to spread propaganda and attack other users who criticize the Chinese Communist Party.

Lol, the Lockheed Martin sponsored rats spewing their typical disgusting diarrhea
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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You see what you guys did with your jokes? Now they're onto comrade Ma Yilong.
He will no longer be referred with only the title "comrade". Now he's also being referred as "PLAGF Lieutenant General Ma Yilong" (中华人民解放军陆军马一龙中将).

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In Russia, he has received the title "Russian Army Polkovnik (Colonel) Elonski Igorovich Muskova".
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Obviously the Chinese treats him way better than the Russians.
 
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Temstar

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Should he have gone with Emmanuel Macron, as the Elysée Palace seems to have wanted? That would be forgetting that the French president would have been received with all the honors while the German chancellor would have only played the role of stooge.
Oof, them be fighting words.

Mr. Scholz had more to lose than to gain by making an official visit to Beijing. Germany is one of the Western countries with the worst image of China. The question is whether he really had a choice. As the world's second largest economy, China is simply unavoidable, even though Mr. Xi's nationalism poses a risk. Although the growth of the Chinese economy is slowing every year, many industrialists and financiers continue to believe – rightly or wrongly – that the risk is worth taking. As the German chairman of the European Chamber of Commerce in Beijing, Jörg Wuttke, noted: "there are no two countries like China."
Okay we get it, just get Macron to come already, no need to be all coy about it.
 

LCR34

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He will no longer be referred with only the title "comrade". Now he's also being referred as "PLAGF Lieutenant General Ma Yilong" (中华人民解放军陆军马一龙中将).

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In Russia, he has received the title "Russian Army Polkovnik (Colonel) Elonski Igorovich Muskova".
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Obviously the Chinese treats him way better than the Russians.
Oof, PLAAGF? He should be in the space & cyber force.
 

Biscuits

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Go cry about it...


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American pundits have got it backwards about China​

Writers opining about China’s fault in the deterioration of relations with the US are confusing cause and effect

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In recent years, but notably in the wake of the Communist Party of China’s (CPC) 20th National Congress that just concluded at the end of October, Western writers have rushed to accuse Beijing of becoming anti-Western. This is seen in several examples by Western writers, such as
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or a quintessential China-blaming piece recently published by the
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In his article, titled “How China Lost America,” Friedman says that there are four trends in China that have soured the US-China relationship: market manipulation, hyper-nationalism, aggressive foreign policy and Beijing’s “zero-Covid” policy. But he does not elaborate these points to any convincible degree and fails to acknowledge the extent to which Washington’s own policies are to blame for China’s perceived turn from the West.

First of all, a lot of what is called intellectual property theft (which Friedman mentions in his piece) is just ordinary intellectual diffusion. The FBI started an entire ‘China Initiative’ to investigate such instances in top US universities and companies – and it came up almost completely empty-handed to the point that it had to be shut down for devolving into a vehicle for anti-Asian racism.

This also doesn’t even acknowledge the extent of the US’ own market manipulation, namely through the sheer influence that its multinationals have in creating trade and economic policy, or its promiscuous use of unilateral sanctions. The US also routinely violates its World Trade Organization (WTO) duties in its trade war against Beijing. The organization even
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China to impose duties on $645 million worth of imports over US trade malpractice in January.

For an American to call China hyper-nationalist is laughable. The US is the most cartoonishly nationalistic country in the history of our species: children in most public schools are required to swear a ‘pledge of allegiance’ to the flag every morning, Americans only know one language on average and the American flag is draped everywhere in the country. Chinese people are, on balance, much less chauvinistic and more open-minded.

Likewise, it’s hard to take insinuations of Beijing’s supposed “aggressive” foreign policy seriously either. The People’s Republic of China has never started a war since its inception and has not been involved in a proxy war in decades. Compare that to the fact that the US has been at war for nearly every single year of its existence since 1776. It is actually America’s aggressive foreign policy that is prompting resistance from Beijing.

Finally, on the zero-Covid point, this is just sensible policy. Virtually every country in the world has caved into public pressure to relax Covid-related restrictions. That’s fairly understandable because of how ineffective they were in most countries. But that doesn’t change the fact that Covid-19 is an extremely deadly and debilitating disease that is continuing to kill many people and leave many more disabled. If one could choose to eliminate Covid-19 from society, then why wouldn’t they? Thankfully, China has effectively used its technology to do just this – and it works.

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, based on three surveys conducted by the American Chamber of Commerce China, the EU Chamber of Commerce China and the Japan External Trade Organization, found that China is their favorite investment destination. Among the top reasons listed was the country’s supply-chain resilience and the effectiveness of its Covid-19 controls.

Here’s the real story of why Friedman and others are bashing China: when Beijing began its reform and opening-up policies, it was hoped that this explosion of American capital into the country would be hand-in-hand with regime change. This did not happen. In fact, China’s leaders anticipated this and made moves to ensure that this didn’t happen. And top American intellectuals are mad about it. That’s the sparknotes version.


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during the beginning of the opening-up and reform period, Deng Xiaoping: “No matter to what degree China opens up to the outside world and admits foreign capital, its relative magnitude will be small and it can’t affect our system of socialist public ownership of the means of production.”

There’s been a lot said about Chinese President Xi Jinping’s supposed anti-West sentiment and hardcore communist ideology, but that does not acknowledge that the People’s Republic of China has always been a single-party socialist state – and a fiercely independent one at that – since its inception. And, just as the US has spent decades doing, it will do everything in its power to make independent nations acquiesce to its way of doing things, e.g., what is now called the ‘rules-based international order.’

Friedman and others who are blaming Beijing for initiating the deterioration of the US-China relationship do not live in the world of facts and causation. They live in a world clouded and distorted beyond repair by US exceptionalism. It’s not anything China did or didn’t that’s to blame for Americans’ deteriorating view of Beijing; rather, it’s these same people spinning their agenda and misinforming the public.
Xi Jinping is a politician who literally got partially educated in America and allowed his daughter to study university there. He is what sensible minded people would call potentially compromised. Its as good as Americans can get.

Through Xi's government, he has maintained a conciliatory posture towards America. China has limited sanctions only to American individuals, withheld weapon sales to countries that needed help against US aggression, allowed continued freedom of business for Americans inside the country and internationally, only verbally condemned US international and domestic abuses, refused to raise the military budget and so on.
 

FriedButter

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Funny how the quake doctor lost against the disabled person who needs a teleprompter to understand you. I don’t know why they picked Oz of all people lmao.

Current projections are.
Senate Blue 51 / 49 Red or 50/50.
House Blue 216 / 219 Red
House Projections = +/-13

Can’t be that hard to find a couple house RINOs to convince on printing another $20 billion for Ukraine every couple weeks. Expect the policies of the Neocons, Neolibs, and the war hawks to start hardening in Ukraine and against China by 2024. MBS is probably next on the chopping block.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Funny how the quake doctor lost against the disabled person who needs a teleprompter to understand you. I don’t know why they picked Oz of all people lmao.

Current projections are.


Can’t be that hard to find a couple house RINOs to convince on printing another $20 billion for Ukraine every couple weeks. Expect the policies of the Neocons, Neolibs, and the war hawks to start hardening in Ukraine and against China by 2024. MBS is probably next on the chopping block.
they don't have the capability to do anything against MBS, they're already as hard as possible in Ukraine, and Russia is only now escalating once they've already gone all in.
 
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