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sunnymaxi said:
China purchased SU-27 produce in mainland as J-11 under license agreement with Russia and made promise, they will never sale this aircraft to any foreign customer. that's it

J-16 and J-15 these two flankers have nothing to do with Russian permission. China derived J-16 from J-11.

but yeah agreed with your second point. but China can sale J-16 with inferior avionics. another point, prize is too damn high for China to ignore. Saudi in China's camp is a huge victory.
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Do you think the Saudis would want to buy a deliberately gimped plane (even if the original is the most advanced flanker)? And if they did, do you think China would be willing to spend the r&d, manpower and resources to create a separate supply chain for this export variant? That's a lot of time and energy that would be better spent building planes for the PLA. It's not like China needs money anyway.

I think the more likely scenario is sale of C919 or less sensitive tech like JF-17.
 
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Overbom said:
Why would they even go for a 4th gen aircraft? They already got loads of them.

Saudi Arabia has the money and I am sure it is willing to splash all that for a 5th gen aircraft with possibly domestic production/assembly/ limited ToT/becoming a regional hub
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only discussion.

we are talking about F-15 replacement. US threaten to block parts. Saudi air force operate 232 F-15s, third largest fleet after USA and Japan.

Chinese state media officially announced, FC-31 is for exports and they have already offered UAE with local assembly line.
 
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56860 said:
Do you think the Saudis would want to buy a deliberately gimped plane (even if the original is the most advanced flanker)? And if they did, do you think China would be willing to spend the r&d, manpower and resources to create a separate supply chain for this export variant? That's a lot of time and energy that would be better spent building planes for the PLA. It's not like China needs money anyway.

I think the more likely scenario is sale of C919 or less sensitive tech like JF-17.
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J-16 is not for exports. we all know that. just discussing possibilities. China will never set up new production line of J-16 for exports.

FC-31 has bright chances. this model is for exports.

what about Rocket force of Saudi Arabia. currently operating DF-3 and DF-21 missiles. rumors in 2021, China helping Saudis to build ICBM.

plenty of option other than fighter jets.
 
baykalov

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sndef888 said:
Damn, I would love to see this happen. Destroy their relations with OPEC and ensure no one trusts putting capital in the US ever again.
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Reuters article from three years ago, published on 5 April 2019:

Saudi Arabia threatens to ditch dollar oil trades to stop 'NOPEC'

Saudi Arabia is threatening to sell its oil in currencies other than the dollar if Washington passes a bill exposing OPEC members to U.S. antitrust lawsuits, three sources familiar with Saudi energy policy said.

They said the option had been discussed internally by senior Saudi energy officials in recent months. Two of the sources said the plan had been discussed with OPEC members and one source briefed on Saudi oil policy said Riyadh had also communicated the threat to senior U.S. energy officials.

The chances of the U.S. bill known as NOPEC coming into force are slim and Saudi Arabia would be unlikely to follow through, but the fact Riyadh is considering such a drastic step is a sign of the kingdom’s annoyance about potential U.S. legal challenges to OPEC.

In the unlikely event Riyadh were to ditch the dollar, it would undermine the its status as the world’s main reserve currency, reduce Washington’s clout in global trade and weaken its ability to enforce sanctions on nation states.

“The Saudis know they have the dollar as the nuclear option,” one of the sources familiar with the matter said.

“The Saudis say: let the Americans pass NOPEC and it would be the U.S. economy that would fall apart,” another source said.

Saudi Arabia’s energy ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

A move by Saudi Arabia to ditch the dollar would resonate well with big non-OPEC oil producers such as Russia as well as major consumers China and the European Union, which have been calling for moves to diversify global trade away from the dollar to dilute U.S. influence over the world economy.
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sunnymaxi said:
another big News. LAMOO

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1576595139920908288
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Such imperial hubris will hasten the birth of petroyuan.


Yes, it's time to ask some crucial questions.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1577831090374340608


Besides electric blankets, solar panels is another item that Europe urgently needs.

China’s solar exports to Europe shine bright amid dimming trade outlook, global recession fears
  • Chinese solar battery exports to the EU surged 138 per cent in the first eight months of the year, compared with the same period in 2021
  • Soaring electricity prices in Europe, triggered by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, are one of the major factors driving up demand

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South Korean isn't really ready for a showdown with North Korea.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1578091697803862017
 
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