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pmc

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Copium, median salary in Russia is less than $1000 a month. Most vehicles are second-hand, while new automobile sales mostly consist of low-tier cars. There is a huge number of economic emigrants.

But you are a known Russia wanker, so not surpising you are trying to wank them even there. Strange you live in the US tho, you should get Russian citizenship and move there asap as you are missing on all those riches.

I have clear idea about wealth as i read news from Arab world. its what they think real wealth really. there flight schedules frequency and the type airplane they use is the reflection of that purchasing power. it is not some random statistics based on debt.
 

xypher

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I have clear idea about wealth as i read news from Arab world. its what they think real wealth really. there flight schedules frequency and the type airplane they use is the reflection of that purchasing power. it is not some random statistics based on debt.
Why are you talking about Arabs, when I was talking about Russians? Can't refute that most Russians have to spend 50%+ of their income on food, worse than Europe with their food inflation? :D Arabs are a poor indicator of wealth, they just like to spend money on shiny things, meanwhile their countries remain banana republics with crappy education, no industry, no high-level services sector (IT, finance, etc.).

It's also funny to see how you changed your tune after the war started - you used to say that Arabs don't matter and are basically owned by the US & Europe; Germany & Europe were on the second place in your wank list. Now you are wanking Turks & Arabs because they are amicable with Russia, you are too obvious :D
 

pmc

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Why are you talking about Arabs, when I was talking about Russians? Can't refute that most Russians have to spend 50%+ of their income on food, worse than Europe with their food inflation? :D Arabs are a poor indicator of wealth, they just like to spend money on shiny things, meanwhile their countries remain banana republics with crappy education, no industry, no high-level services sector (IT, finance, etc.).

It's also funny to see how you changed your tune after the war started - you used to say that Arabs don't matter and are basically owned by the US & Europe; Germany & Europe were on the second place in your wank list. Now you are wanking Turks & Arabs because they are amicable with Russia, you are too obvious :D
if they spend that much on food. No one will give them vacation bookings in Middleast and Turkey. Just look at airline ticket price now.
even Sochi and Crimea hotels are not for so called 1000 median salary and those vacation take millions of people
i was the first one mentioned Eurabia. These wealthy Arabs already have enough with other poor third world countries which surround them. you just need read there opinion column. they have zero tolerance for less well off people.
 

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Putin has to put force behind his words, but he has a point. Just ask yourself 2 simple questions:

1. Did the difference between poor, middle and rich countries increase or decrease after the end of the Cold War?

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2. How many countries were low income prior to WW2 and high income today?

Only 3: Singapore and South Korea, China by end of this year.

Meanwhile multiple countries devolved away from high income to middle or from middle to poor: Equatorial Guinea, Venezuela, Brazil, Russia, Argentina, Libya, Iraq.
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, but if you include China this year as high income, you'll need to include a lot more countries that have become rich since WW2. The eastern and southern Europe, Ireland, the Gulf states, Malaysia, Thailand etc.

Most the countries you mentioned as devolving weren't rich. Their economies were primarily centred around the export of a primary resource; oil in the case of Equatorial Guinea and grain/livestock for countries like Brazil and Argentina. The problem with these industries is that as populations increase, the amount of oilfields or arable land doesn't. Furthermore even when they were "rich", most of the wealth was contained within a few small families or colonial administrators.

What I took from Putin is that he's finally declared war on western neoliberalism. In one word what's made his speech possible is China. Historically the west held a monopoly on technology, that's no longer the case as China alone has caught up and overtaken the west in virtually every field of technology. Now that has been achieved the rest of the world can finally ignore the west and rely on China for everything it previously looked to get from the west. Imagine is happening to Europe just from the reduction in Russian oil and gas and extend it to every single primary resource.

Whether Putin, a lifelong capitalist neoliberal, is sincere in what he says we'll have to wait and see.

It's also interesting that he mentioned the USSR in the 80s. A similar thing could have happened with the Gulf Oil embargo, but the USSR decided to save the west by selling them cheap oil and gas. OPEC is in a similar position today, that's why we are seeing an incredible amount of diplomacy to the Gulf states from Russia, China and the western states.
 

xypher

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if they spend that much on food. No one will give them vacation bookings in Middleast and Turkey. Just look at airline ticket price now.
even Sochi and Crimea hotels are not for so called 1000 median salary and those vacation take millions of people
i was the first one mentioned Eurabia. These wealthy Arabs already have enough with other poor third world countries which surround them. you just need read there opinion column. they have zero tolerance for less well off people.
Continue coping, 76.4% spend 50%+ on food according to Russian state media -
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No, quit lying, when I was bringing up the power of Middle East over oil, you were dismissing that and continued wanking Germany. You changed your tune after the war because Russia was higher than Germany on the wank list, otherwise we would be hearing stories about Germanic engineering destroying Russians from you :D
 

pmc

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Continue coping, 76.4% spend 50%+ on food according to Russian state media -
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:D
I know those statistics that keep publishing. like $60b defense budget
They put 30,000 people and 8000 construction machinery on this one road alone. this practical figure. and there are videos of construction size. Road construction budget alone is $75b this year.
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No, quit lying, when I was bringing up the power of Middle East over oil, you were dismissing that and continued wanking Germany. You changed your tune after the war because Russia was higher than Germany on the wank list, otherwise we would be hearing stories about Germanic engineering destroying Russians from you :D
i was telling you Arabs cannot do it alone. It is OPEC+ that make them powerfull. in certain things they have to bring another person even they know the language.
 

xypher

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I know those statistics that keep publishing. like $60b defense budget
They put 30,000 people and 8000 construction machinery on this one road alone. this practical figure. and there are videos of construction size. Road construction budget alone is $75b this year.
Those military budget statistics seem to be true, maybe exaggerated, considering that Russia is still stuck in eastern Ukraine after 7 months and even losing ground to Ukrainians now. So yeah, 76.4% of Russians have to spend 50%+ of their income on food :D

Well, 30'000 people with $900 salary = only $2.7 million a month, Russian labor is just cheap. You also blatantly lied as expected about the road budget for this year,
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i.e. x5 smaller than what you claimed :D
i was telling you Arabs cannot do it alone. It is OPEC+ that make them powerfull.
No, you were straight up wanking US and European influence over OPEC because you were in your "Germany wank" stage ;)
 

pmc

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Those statistics seem to be true, maybe even exaggerated considering that Russia is still stuck in eastern Ukraine after 7 months and even losing ground to Ukrainians now :D
They took largest area with fraction of deployable forces. and destroyed so much that Nato is doing repeat conference of replenishment. losing ground could be part of strategy to make Ukrainian mobile.
Well, 30'000 people with $900 salary = only $2.7 million a month, Russian labor is just cheap. You also blatantly lied as expected about the road budget for this year,
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i.e. x5 smaller than what you claimed :D
you can read the salary. this not the road budget capex.
 
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