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This is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, there is no "endgame" where China can win forever and eternally. Geopolitical games never end, and rivals will never stop emerging. You can cherry pick however many comparisons you want at whatever point in time you want, which is in fact what all China-haters do when they downplay anything China does, but the fact of the matter is that India does have the prerequiste population and demographics to challenge China in 50, 100, 200 years. Fostering a willing ignorance and sense of superiority now toward any country will coalesce into a psychological inability of future generations decades in the future to even comprehend the idea that "shithole" countries would have anything worth learning from.
Here's the thing, the way things are going, I don't think India will exist in 100 let alone 200 years.
 

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2. One thing I want to watch out for is falling into the same thinking patterns of westerners in the 90's and early 2000's with regard to China. Look into just about any western article on China from that period and you will see what I'm talking about. Complacency is a bitch, and no-one wants to see China replay the 1990-2020 America act.
I question this. The problem here is that China regularly puts out all kinds of achievements yearly. What would take others 5 years or more is condensed into a single year for the Chinese. The Americans CHOSE to ignore this. Even today, just look at the last 10 years of development, have any Americans recognized our achievements or work without slander or snide?

On the flip side, the Indians have nothing to show for themselves, outside of constant b*tching and pissing off the Chinese, what have they to show to us in the last 10 years alone that they are worthy of being a superpower outside of 1.4 billion people that has been said for the last few decades? The status quo hasn't changed for India. Secondly, the 200 years from now logic only works if the Chinese literally stopped doing anything. I doubt the Chinese will stagnate for 10 years much less 200. This Indian threat is full of fallicies.
 

supercat

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I expect to see more anti-China rhetoric to raise when Trump comes back and the demand to make China pay back for Covid.
The devastating loss both in terms of human life and economy in the U.S. was caused by the policies of the U.S. regime. Americans should ask their own regime for compensation. While we at it, the U.S. regime should also pay reparations for slavery, the brutal treatment of indigenous people/Native Americans, and all the victims of its illegal wars.

Covid death toll vs China’s puts US to shame​

‘History should judge us,’ opined one commentary – and it will
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BTW, America's war criminals are absolutely unrepentant, as exemplified by Madeleine Albright, who thinks that the death of 500,000 Iraqi children is "worth it" (2:34)

China and the West have completely different psyches.

That's why China can engage in productive activities, such as drilling water in Africa, while the West cannot.
 

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Since India is now the topic of the thread, I have a couple of questions: How many useful people - defined as being able to participate in a modern economy - does India have? Let's suppose against the totality of the evidence that India will actually develop successfully, what do you propose China do about it? "Don't be complacent" is a meaningless buzz-phrase; what are the concrete actions China can take?
There's a ton of concrete actions that China can take, both now and in the future that can secure a stable relationship with a 1.4+ billion population nuclear power on its border. This is my last post since this is a news thread.

1. First and foremost is to settle the damn border dispute. It's the last land border dispute (besides the Bhutan border which is tied with the Indian dispute anyway) that China has and it's a waste of resources and manpower fighting with India on this useless piece of land. It also can be and has been used as a pain point to whip up nationalistic fevor in the Indian population both by the Indian government and foreign powers who would like nothing better to see China waste time and PLA resources on this while they apply pressure in the Pacific. Also if China and the US really got into a hot war, India might start having some ideas if the border is still unsettled. Have it settled and ratified so that there are no more legitmate pressure points that can be used to instigate conflict between India and China. The sooner the better.

2. Understand the Indian political mindset better and have a much more robust reporting network in India. There is not enough Chinese literature on point 1 that outlines actions and compromises that can make it easier for a fair border split easier to digest for both sides. The last idea I've heard on this issue is that India would accept nothing less than 100% of the disputed territory and because of this India is dragging their feet on settling this border since any party that does so would destroy their political future. It may be that the 2020 border clashes were delibrately started by China to force India into move their timeline up on this matter, since doing nothing at all is what India wants. Has the equation changed in the aftermath of Covid and subsequent worldwide economic downturn? We need more clarity on this so that a deal can be reached as soon as possible, so we need more human resources that are capable of objectively reporting and understanding the Indian sphere independent of current western coverage of India. Consider this, the vast majority of the world's preconceptions of India are formed by reading the same western media sources that mock and misreport on China today. This is NOT to say that India's current problems are cooked up nonsense by salty westerners.

3. Balance our relationship with Pakistan and India until a lasting peace between the two can be accomplished. This involves not getting too close to Pakistan so far as to make positive discourse with India an impossbility. A reminder that Pakistan is also a nuclear power and a war between the two would be disastrous for the region.

So am I but I don't have some delusional grandeur of India beating China in 200 years.

And I do not have some delusional grandeur of China being the supreme superpower once and for all once America is dethroned. The Americans couldn't last 5 minutes after the Soviets fell before congratulating themselves on winning forever and were too busy sucking their own dicks to notice China on the rise.
 

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The devastating loss both in terms of human life and economy in the U.S. was caused by the policies of the U.S. regime. Americans should ask their own regime for compensation. While we at it, the U.S. regime should also pay reparations for slavery, the brutal treatment of indigenous people/Native Americans, and all the victims of its illegal wars.

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BTW, America's war criminals are absolutely unrepentant, as exemplified by Madeleine Albright, who thinks that the death of 500,000 Iraqi children is "worth it" (2:34)

China and the West have completely different psyches.

That's why China can engage in productive activities, such as drilling water in Africa, while the West cannot.
Kinda shows how much that the US deserves to be destroyed and how little compassion most of the world will show on the day that the USA falls. Should the US bounce back and continue to cause harm to the world, then my belief in religion will be irreversibly damaged because what kind of religion gives the USA to continue there evil actions through out the globe unopposed. In fact, given what I see now and what I believe will happen, the USA is going to lose it all and the position that most of the world held when the USA going into those countries to invade and make them slaves, the USA will occupy this position as the race to be stomped on from now until eternity when every single innocent lives that the USA happily took for nothing more then a joke is thoroughly avenged and given the amount of suffering that the USA has caused and hidden from the world, I doubt any nation is going to give these evil bast*&ds the time of day.
 

j17wang

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They could mine the Yellow Sea since it’s a big place and not entirely in China. However, the Pearl River Delta? I don’t see what capabilities they have to mine the delta shut without China responding to them forcefully. It seems like this Navy Commander doesn’t think China will response to the US laying mines right off of China.

There will be no mining of the Yellow Sea nor any mining of Pearl River Delta. Those are both acts of war and china will glass the US in return. Its just a navy commander doing his usual round of trolling, just like stupid idiots who are calling for "decolonizing Russia".

The systematic debellatio of the polity occupying the north american continent would be the natural outcome of such folly.
 
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