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Overbom

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Hm. Seems like China telling the US to buzz off is starting to trigger some people here lol.
This "Taiwan Straits is not internationally recognised waters" is a significant step up by China. If the US thinks it can salami slice without consequences then it is very wrong.

The Taiwan Strait closing to foreign military vessels would be a huge statement of intent by China and it would trash US standing in the region if it accepted it
 
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Fedupwithlies

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…. Or Hawaii or Guam So what’s your point?
Ireland isn't even totally independent, or did we all forget North Ireland?
So where is NATO entrenchment in Asia and support for Independence? 80% of his post is about "diplomatic resolution", and you are just fearmongering and taking things out of context just like the Josh Rogin opinion article.
But it must be a preemptive way, not the one that comes after the war has started.”

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Pre-war the Ukraine really, really wanted join both the EU and NATO, or did we all forget about that?
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I know that some users here speculated that there could be a deadline for this. @Temstar mentioned a while ago that one of the podcast seems to suggest something like that.

This was posted 30 minute ago and deep in the article there is a header with specific words.

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Now that person is a professor but the choice of words is interesting to be posted in the article. The US still has time to make the right choice? Still has time?
Defence Minister and State Councilor Weng Fenghei full speech.

 

enroger

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Tell me where does Zelensky says "Taiwan is a country"? He doesn't even mention Taiwan or China by name. It's all couched in very vague and tame language.

Calling for a "diplomatic resolution" is not the same as calling for NATO entrenchment in Asia or supporting Taiwan independence. Way to take things out of context like that Josh Rogin guy.

When asked about Taiwan in specific he said "they keep growing their appetites, their ambitions......... The world enables these leaders to grow their appetites for now". Who do you think "these leaders" refer to? Is it not painfully obvious? Stop washing the floor so hard please...

The truth is Elensky does not have any real stance of his own, when asked about China's role in stopping the war he would sing all praises to please China, when asked about Taiwan he would say stuffs like these to please the US. You guys are wasting time trying to condemn or "washing floor" with regards to his comment
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Registered Member
... like Ireland
No, more like your lawn. Please cite any legal documentation that spells out Taiwans de jure nationhood, if you can't produce any single internationally and legally recognized proof to support your claim then kindly stop brownosing yourself into the Chinese internal affairs. If you're going to continue this provocation you're just trolling at this point.
 

Phead128

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You guys are wasting time trying to condemn or "washing floor" with regards to his comment
I was calling out Josh Rogin's opinion piece as twisting the meaning of Zelinsky's original quote in order to make it seem Ukraine is outright supporting Taiwan. His actual quote is far more tame. That Josh Rogin guy is very biased in his manipulation of Zelinsky's words.
 

enroger

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I was calling out Josh Rogin's opinion piece as twisting the meaning of Zelinsky's original quote in order to make it seem Ukraine is outright supporting Taiwan. His actual quote is far more tame. That Josh Rogin guy is very biased in his manipulation of Zelinsky's words.

I didn't even read Josj Rogin, just by reading Eleinsky's original comment it is obvious he is calling for support for Taiwan against China no matter how we mince word or how he didn't mention Taiwan or China by name...

Again, Elensky's stance(or rather the non-existence of it) does not matter
 
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