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Fedupwithlies

Fedupwithlies

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Phead128 said:
If you actually read Zelensky's direct quotation, it's way more vague, tame, and neutral.

Western troll: What advice you have for Taiwan who face coercion and threat of invasion from larger neighbor??

Zelensky's response:
  • “No one benefits from [war], apart from certain political leaders who are not content with the present level of their ambitions. Therefore, they keep growing their appetites, their ambitions......... The world enables these leaders to grow their appetites for now, therefore we need a diplomatic resolution to support countries that are in need of help......We must not leave them behind at the mercy of another country which is more powerful in financial terms, in territorial terms and in terms of equipment........nd therefore, if there is a way out diplomatically, we need to use the diplomatic way. But it must be a preemptive way, not the one that comes after the war has started.”
TLDR: A diplomatic resolution before war starts. The same 'balanced' language that China defacto gives Ukraine war.

And when you realize this is an Opinion piece in WaPo by a pro-Taiwan Westerner, you can see why it's twisted/exaggerated to make a big stink over nothing.
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That ain't neutral.

He calls Taiwan a country and, given what he asked for "diplomatically" before the invasion was the Ukraine's ascension into NATO and the EU, what I take away from this is his call to action of NATO becoming entrenched in Asia and complete support of Taiwan before the declaration of official Taiwan independence.

Its just that he said it couched in the usual disingenuous language of peace and diplomacy.

Remember, westerners think killing brown children is bring peace and freedom to them. They'll never admit to their actual actions, but always find euphemisms to make it sound good. But he called Taiwan a country. That shows you what he's thinking. He slipped up.
 
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Coalescence said:
Feels like China has adopted a military posture now in contrast to before where they tried to do diplomacy. Maybe they have accepted that a conflict is inevitable and unpreventable now.
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If between now and 2030/35, there won't be a war between the US and China, it will be nothing short of a miracle in my books.

History is quite clear on this. A situation when a rising power is displacing the Hegemon will inevitably lead to a war (UK -> US transition was with WW1 and WW2)
 
FriedButter

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Coalescence said:
Feels like China has adopted a military posture now in contrast to before where they tried to do diplomacy. Maybe they have accepted that a conflict is inevitable and unpreventable now.
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I know that some users here speculated that there could be a deadline for this. @Temstar mentioned a while ago that one of the podcast seems to suggest something like that.

This was posted 30 minute ago and deep in the article there is a header with specific words.

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Reunification is certain

"We will pay some price (to reunify the island by force if we have to), but eventually we will be able to thoroughly solve the Taiwan question. The signal given by China at the moment is to let the US know that the result will be the same - reunification is inevitable, and the US still has time to make the right choice to avoid a showdown with China that the US is doomed to lose," Li noted.
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Now that person is a professor but the choice of words is interesting to be posted in the article. The US still has time to make the right choice? Still has time?
 
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