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Abominable

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Temstar said:
If the trip isn't back on then that's more evidence for tactically positive isn't it?
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US politicians have quite busy schedules so it would require a lot of cancelling and rearranging other engagements. It's unlikely to happen any time soon regardless of the test result's validity unless the US really want it to happen.

I think the best evidence of it not being real is the fact she didn't die. She's like 100 years old and looks like a ghoul from fallout.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Abominable said:
US politicians have quite busy schedules so it would require a lot of cancelling and rearranging other engagements. It's unlikely to happen any time soon regardless of the test result's validity unless the US really want it to happen.

I think the best evidence of it not being real is the fact she didn't die. She's like 100 years old and looks like a ghoul from fallout.
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Very busy schedule indeed. Before you know it she’ll be retired and she could pull a Pompeo and discuss retirement funds with Tsai over a bowl of pineapple slices.
 
solarz

solarz

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SanWenYu said:
GFW itself is a not a law though. And IMO it'd be a bad idea to make GFW as if itself was a law. That would give the GFW operators way too much power. In civil laws, it should be as clear and specific as possible to tell the public what they cannot do.

One of the worst aspects of GFW is that it has never been made clear what traffic it will bock. Censorship without transparency is one kind of 不教而诛 (penalty without reason).
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The GFW is part of the Chinese legal framework on the regulation of the internet. In particular, it ensures two things:

1. Data on Chinese citizens must be physically stored within Chinese borders.

2. Content that violates Chinese laws cannot be displayed or disseminated on the Chinese internet.

The GFW will block traffic to sites whose owners violate above stipulations. It could be failing to store user data in China, or disseminating pornographic, violent, or seditious content.

I think this spells out pretty clearly what is and isn't allowed.
 
Temstar

Temstar

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Abominable said:
US politicians have quite busy schedules so it would require a lot of cancelling and rearranging other engagements. It's unlikely to happen any time soon regardless of the test result's validity unless the US really want it to happen.

I think the best evidence of it not being real is the fact she didn't die. She's like 100 years old and looks like a ghoul from fallout.
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It's true, but it's also true that just as we are doing here people are speculating that US chickened out in this situation and is using COVID-19 as excuse. If it really was COVID-19 she could dispel that notion and say the trip is back on for later in the year without announcing a firm date.

She may yet do that in the coming days, we should watch out for it. If it's not forthcoming though I'll sit tight and instead wait for the leak with juicy details about DoD involvement in a few month time.
 
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SanWenYu

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solarz said:
The GFW is part of the Chinese legal framework on the regulation of the internet. In particular, it ensures two things:
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I think you are confusing enforcement and laws. GFW is an enforcement of laws but itself isn't a law. What an enforcement can do and cannot do must be spelt out clearly by the laws. Think how much power you want to give to police.

solarz said:
1. Data on Chinese citizens must be physically stored within Chinese borders.
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I have never heard that GFW can enforce this rule. Such data, such as human gene samples, can be sent out of border by snail mail as it has happened before. There isn't much the GFW can do about that.

solarz said:
2. Content that violates Chinese laws cannot be displayed or disseminated on the Chinese internet.

The GFW will block traffic to sites whose owners violate above stipulations. It could be failing to store user data in China, or disseminating pornographic, violent, or seditious content.

I think this spells out pretty clearly what is and isn't allowed.
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What you listed are the rules in general as we are perceiving and/or as we have been taught in education. But they are not necessarily same as what the laws define.

Has there been any official declaration from the government on the boundaries of GFW? For examle, by which clauses of what laws the GFW must block contents that are considered pornographic? We don't even need to open the can of worms on "seditious contents".
 
4Runner

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tokenanalyst said:
Alibaba, Tencent, Bytedance. Probably.

What Alibaba do is different from Amazon.
Tencent focus in broad range of product and function more like a investment group.
ByteDance popularize a format that didn't exist in the West at that time.

The only American company that i personally see would have taken the Chinese market by storm is Alphabet, like YouTube and Google.
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That is a good point. There is still no comparison between Bidu and Google. But in a sense, GFW doesn't incentivize Bidu to do better and catch up. YouTube is a less threat in that Short video is the way to go inside China, such as Douyin and Kuaishou. Also live stream eco-system really puts China in an advantageous position.

Also Ant drama reveals one downside of GFW in that Ma took it for granted what gov has been affording to him. What Ma said in that Bund Forum was really really really stupid. If GFW was down, Ma would not have had the balls to do that shit to the gov.

Before the recent tech crackdown, the Chinese Internet scene was approaching to a dangerous level and really suffocating startups. One of Xi's greatest achievements is to put those Internet shitheads in their place so that both the public and the startups can develop normally as far as the Internet economy is concerned.
 
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