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manqiangrexue
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I think you gotta chill. Pakistan is a major Chinese ally. Don't jump all over it and call it a US puppet just because 1 thing or a few minor things go wrong. If the US thought this was good enough for it to control Pakistan, it wouldn't have tried to kill Khan. I remember when Khan was first picked, some said he had a pro-US stance compared to his predecessor and that Chinese ties would slip. I just wanted to wait and see and that didn't happen. Until there is some solid evidence, I wouldn't jump on Pakistan or accuse it of anything yet. Even entire hostile administrations might reign and short periods can cool between allies or the opposite between rivals but let's not lose track of the big picture.
At the rate things are going, the Americans will topple every pro-China government in the world. China will scream ‘non interference’ all the while Americans are laughing. This is how great power politics have always happened.
Can anyone answer this question or defend the "no interference policy" that China has insisted on keeping as it's core foreign policy strategy to show their western counterparts their intentions? What has this strategy brought China other than persistent interference with her own interests not just at China's periphery but globally raising the costs for China diplomatically, economically, and militarily.
If countries like Pakistan knows that China can protect their behinds against any American interference do we honestly think that American initiatives would be this successful?
Also, can't China maintain the "no interference" policy but with a caveat. We won't interfere if Chinese interests, and allies aren't interfered at the same time. China can't pretend that they're not a powerful country or maintain the illusion of being weak, meek, and dimwitted as some super materialistic Chinese, and western loving Chinese syncopants love to see.
For as long as China is successful, and it's governing system non-western, she will always be the perpetual enemy of the entire collective west. The CPC is an existential threat to the current political-business-economic model of the west. It must destroy the CPC model sooner rather than later to deligitimize it's success, highlight the failures (Cultural Revolution, Great Leap Forward) to ensure that western people will not entertain a Chinese alternative in the slightest.
I got banned too from r/geopolitics too because I was questioning the US narrative too often and based comments. This was years ago. Bunch of losers, US is going to lose its hegemony because it has a head up it's ass's and echo chamber circlejerk in DCYeah it was my geopolitical subreddit for like 4 years then I got my ass banned because I doubted China watcher that couldn't read or understand chinese.
Could life stop imitating my trolling comments
Ideology matters. The end of ideology is a neocon talking point designed to break down social and national cohesion, when they are actually the most ideologically fanatic of all. It's the same as the claim of them ending racism when they're the most racist of all, or ending nationalism when they're the most nationalist of all..
Pakistan isn't like Russia, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, etc. I think it is a mistake to bet too much on Pakistan. Balancing between them and India may have been a better choice. Allowing any one side to expect unconditional behavior whether that be support or hostility means you are predictable. Never be predictable when the lives of billions are on the line.
solarz
Brigadier
Well if the US really wanted to make a point, they can easily send another prominent politician.
The problem with interfering with other countries' politics is that in some they change a lot. One moment one leader is in charge, the next the opposition is. Being neutral and supporting whoever is in charge means the opposition will be pro-China. If you favour the regime in power and he/she is suppressing other parties, then if the opposition will hate you. That has worked well in Pakistan so far and all major parties and the military is pro-China.
I think it would be good to interfere in unfriendly countries like the USA, Japan etc. You have nothing to lose there. But in allies and neutral countries it is a dirty tactic.
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Sri Lanka, Lebanon, India. America are pretty much attacking every country in the world right now.