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FriedButter

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The official article from the tweet.

It contains 3 possible treats from military to non military actions.

1) Sanctions against visiting officials.

2) Flying Jets over multiple areas over Taiwan

3) No Fly Zone by the PLAAF and PLAN

Also this specific word choice is interesting.

The retaliation doesn't necessarily mean an all-out military operation to solve the Taiwan question, as China has confidence and patience to push reunification based on its own schedule, experts noted.
 

Coalescence

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And if this is allowed to happen without any dire consequences for America and Taiwan then what good is the so-called Chinese warning if it's essentially going to be revealed as nothing but hot air. Also, what would happen to Xi Jinping with respect to his inability to even muster any semblance of military move against what China has always deemed as it's Redline. He would be severely weakened internally, and possibly be replaced which would again be viewed as a very positive development for the Sino-American relationship.



The shift in leadership could be used politically in America as a gesture of goodwill (capitulation) from China, which would be trumpeted not only as an American Victory but a vindication for the Biden strategy, and to Biden himself along with his acolytes namely, Blinken, Sullivan, and that Indian-American who's part of the NSC and wrote the book on China's long game.



If that were to happen, then China should just drop any pretense of trying to take over Taiwan or trying to create an illusion of multipolar world. It will simply show that Chinese leadership has place the economics above national interests, and that it's supposed core principles are always negotiable. A fact that other countries would ceaselessly exploit to China's detriment.
Damn, calm down. It won't escalate to such a worse case scenario like you're describing. The responses to this provocation must be measured, with minimal damage to China unlike the Europeans destroying their own economy through they own sanctions. Even if China doesn't have an immediate response, they could go on offensive later, escalating their responses and pushing US to sign an agreement with clauses that forces them to concretely support the One China principle and retract all of their initiatives aimed at China. Similarly to what Russia have done with Ukraine, and seeing the reactions I don't think other countries would see it as a weakness and dare to touch on the redlines like US is doing.

I understand why you're anxious, I was too as well before, but after connecting the dots from multiple sources, China is far from a sitting duck that the Western media like to portray. The responses should be measured and not self-destructive.
 

Overbom

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Pelosi going to Taiwan means Biden has greenlit the move. As per the article, Biden has lied about not changing the status quo again.
What?? You don't believe Biden's promises in the recent meeting with Xi?..

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Biden reiterated that the US does not seek a new Cold War with China; it does not aim to change China’s system; the revitalization of its alliances is not targeted at China; the US does not support “Taiwan independence”; and it has no intention to seek a conflict with China. The US is ready to have candid dialogue and closer cooperation with China, stay committed to the one-China policy, and effectively manage competition and disagreements to ensure the steady growth of the relationship.
Everything that Biden has said here is a lie, and we all know it
 

siegecrossbow

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Sanctions is likely just a starting point because this visit is high ranking official.

Also another thing to note is that the Western Public believe China is a paper tiger and if China doesn’t response accordingly.

Their own voters will pressure the politicians to make ever more bolder moves.

If it were up to me I’d go for a direct supersonic flyby of Taipei with WZ-8. Hard to intercept and even if intercepted, it is just a drone so minimal political repercussions.
 

HereToSeePics

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Sell as much of the $1 trillion worth of treasuries before they become frozen or confiscated.

How?

1- There’s only so much grain/metal/oil/gold China can quickly buy before prices start skyrocketing from demand.

2- Theres only so much storage capacity for oil/grain/iron in China, not to mention grain and food imports have a finite shelf life

China needs to make clear that their foreign FX reserves essentially represents the collective blood, sweat, tears and effort of it’s citizens over the last 50+ years in the form of monetary savings they lent the world. Any freezing or seizing of their fx reserves would be considered an act of war because it is a theft of the collective trillions of hours their citizens spent working diligently in factories in hopes of a better future for themselves.
 

Coalescence

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Also this specific word choice is interesting.

The retaliation doesn't necessarily mean an all-out military operation to solve the Taiwan question, as China has confidence and patience to push reunification based on its own schedule, experts noted.
Based. This is intentional, hopefully this will assuage those that are worried that China will throw away their economic development and wealth over Taiwan, but for those that are afraid that China will "back down", you will be right in the short-term but watch their moves in the long-term, your worries may be appeased.
 

FriedButter

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What?? You don't believe Biden's promises in the recent meeting with Xi?..

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Everything that Biden has said here is a lie, and we all know it

The only ones who believes Biden are the diehard democrats. Plus I did say as per the article paraphrasing Biden lies again.

If it were up to me I’d go for a direct supersonic flyby of Taipei with WZ-8. Hard to intercept and even if intercepted, it is just a drone so minimal political repercussions.

That is an option but IMO it has to be visible to the average civilian. These people have been smoking 500 grams per day of 110% ultra pure copium for the last few years. They won’t believe it unless they can watch it. Otherwise, they will convince themselves that “fly by” is fake news and that bolder action most be taken in exchange for losing Ukraine.
 
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