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taxiya

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If it occurs that means we have been publically put on enemy zone.. We will deploy nukes across the region and prepare for an impact. putting Iran under Nuclear Umbralla will definitely be intepreted as war declaration on them (Turkey, Saudi arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Indonesia, and Malaysia etc etc...) This will also completely flip-off China's closests allies in the region Pakistan and Afg. Iran is considered as doubtful element but not a threat because they are weak and can't change status quo hence any perceived threat such as allies converging with them will not sit well across capitals in the region ringing alarm bells and will prompt war preparations. Any perceived threat as such could lead to a unilateral war declaration. If we feel threatened like that we will guaraanted fight anyone because it puts the holy lands and our lands in danger.. Iran being admitted into Sino-russo is a redline.. Make no mistake nobody has anything against sino-russo alliance in fact i welcome it but including mullah regime that is a no-no and redline over my dead body..
I don't agree with the nuclear umbrella idea at all, but find your post very delusional to the point of being crazy.

Who is the "we"? What is the "holy land"? Jerusalem? or Mecca and Medina? What is "our" (your) land? Why Iran being in a Sino-russo alliance a red line of yours, but not Ukraine joining NATO and Taiwan being covered by USA?

Who gives a dam fart to the "we", your "holy land", your land, and your red line if you don't give a dam to China's red line or Russia's red line?

BTW, who do you think you are to lump Algeria, Indonesia and Malaysia into your fold? Algeria is never part of the pro-US Arab circle, the other two are not even Arabic countries but only muslims. Are you going to bring in Chinese muslims into your anti-Iranian fold? That is simply going nuts.

I know you hate Iran and or Russia, and I have an idea where you are from, but don't for a second think that you and the west can threat China for making friend with Iran and Russia or any other country for that matter. You can either accept that China walking her own way or being further squeezed by China if you resist. A Chinese internet proverb "walk our own way and make the enemy no way to go."/"走自己的路让敌人无路可走“

As a matter of fact, China, Russia and Iran are soon to hold another navy drill, that is effectively an alliance without the name. The red line has been crossed already. I don't see anything happening and don't care anything that may come with it. So yes China is already walking over your living body. Tell us what you are going to do.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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The US Must Prepare for War Against Russia Over Ukraine​

So this people are willing to accept a catastrophic war or even a nuclear war with Russia just to keep expanding NATO.

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From the article written by a person who's never seen war she doesn't like wrote:

Why? I see the scale and type of force
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by the Russian military, the
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issued by Putin and his officials, the warlike rhetoric that
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Russian airwaves, and the impatience with talks
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by his foreign minister. Add to that the likely anxiety produced in Putin by the demonstrations last week in Kazakhstan—and Moscow’s
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in tamping them down? I see the scale and type of force
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by his foreign minister. Add to that the likely anxiety produced in Putin by the demonstrations last week in Kazakhstan—and Moscow’s
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in tamping them down
The unrest in Kazakhstan was caused by Russian stance against NATO incursion on Russia's doorstep? This person is creating their own reality and facts on the ground to suit their agenda and narrative against Russia. Holy mother of mercy. They seem to just love to invent s..t to start their wars. How about this hilarious line below from the same article.

" If Europe, NATO, and its allies in Asia and elsewhere fail to defend the foundational United Nations principles of sanctity of borders and state sovereignty, no one will."

But it's mighty fine for the U.S. to violate other countries borders, invading countries sovereign territories like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and challenging the territorial integrity of China.

Then this war mongering loon invoke her grandfather's war service in WW II as if ti shield her from being called a CHICKEN HAWK.

"To be sure, nuclear-armed Russia is far more powerful than Saddam’s Iraq. But from my 96-year old father who witnessed world war, I learned si vis pacem, para bellum: he who wants peace must prepare for war. Only a balance of military power—a deterrent force and the political will to match—can keep war at bay and the military dynamic frozen."
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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From what he said in the article, I assume he will stay.

Note the bolded words


He doesn't say "I will ever feel safe in the US" but instead directs the blame of what happened to him was because he applied for US Gov funding for his research



That he cares about people having "lingering questions about his innocence" if he took the deal, it means that he never thought about leaving the US



Again he is associating himself with the "country"



Lmao. After the government got him in a witch-hunt he came back and started working again lol


As I said in my other post, I have bo respect for him. Maybe I feel sad for him, but for respect, no
You and I can't be mad or lose respect to a person who's family was severely impacted by the excess, yes excess of the cultural revolution. That experience must have been a seminal moment for Dr.Chen a trauma that was etched into his body and soul that his journey into the U.S. is where he thought he found his solace and his home. A country where the promise and allure of justice, fairness, equality and the pursuit of the American dream was what made him believe and probably still do to this very day.

I have yet to read anything about Dr.Chen that he's embarrassed being Chinese or that he's ashamed of his heritage. We have to look at him and situation as a human being first rather than a tool to be used or gained by either country. I of course would love for Dr.Chen to work for China but that has to be on his own accord. But if he never wants to work for China I won't personally hold it against him; my respect for him as a person will actually grow because it means that he's a person of character and integrity. He maybe of Chinese heritage but at the end of the day he's a proud American who believes in the ethos of what his chosen country supposed to stand for. And his loss is not only a loss for America but of our world because he's brilliance in his field of expertise will either be curtailed, diminished and or completely gone.
 

bajingan

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You and I can't be mad or lose respect to a person who's family was severely impacted by the excess, yes excess of the cultural revolution. That experience must have been a seminal moment for Dr.Chen a trauma that was etched into his body and soul that his journey into the U.S. is where he thought he found his solace and his home. A country where the promise and allure of justice, fairness, equality and the pursuit of the American dream was what made him believe and probably still do to this very day.

I have yet to read anything about Dr.Chen that he's embarrassed being Chinese or that he's ashamed of his heritage. We have to look at him and situation as a human being first rather than a tool to be used or gained by either country. I of course would love for Dr.Chen to work for China but that has to be on his own accord. But if he never wants to work for China I won't personally hold it against him; my respect for him as a person will actually grow because it means that he's a person of character and integrity. He maybe of Chinese heritage but at the end of the day he's a proud American who believes in the ethos of what his chosen country supposed to stand for. And his loss is not only a loss for America but of our world because he's brilliance in his field of expertise will either be curtailed, diminished and or completely gone.
Actually i kinda feel sorry for him, he is a classic case of someone who suffered battered wife/person syndrome, People living with battered person/wife syndrome may feel helpless. This can cause them to wrongly believe they deserve the abuse and that they can’t get away from it.

I honestly believe he feels he deserved the abuse from being a Chinese descent, especially if what you said is true that he left China during cultural revolution and found his salvation in america only to be betrayed by his adopted country

There are 4 stages of battered wife syndrome, i believe he is at the second stage

1. Denial. The person is unable to accept that they’re being abused, or they justify it as being “just that once.”
2. Guilt. The person believes they caused the abuse.
3. Enlightenment. In this phase, the person realizes that they didn’t deserve the abuse and acknowledges that their partner has an abusive personality.
4. Responsibility. The person accepts that only the abuser holds responsibility for the abuse. In many cases, this is when they’ll explore their options for leaving the relationship.

I can only hope that he finally reach the final stage and decides to leave the relationship
 
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Arnies

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I know you hate Iran and or Russia, and I have an idea where you are from, but don't for a second think that you and the west can threat China for making friend with Iran and Russia or any other country for that matter. You can either accept that China walking her own way or being further squeezed by China if you resist. A Chinese internet proverb "walk our own way and make the enemy no way to go."/"走自己的路让敌人无路可走“
You know what I meant by that no reason to repeat it. I know your not walking this path but if things were that way then the music will play as i described by the way I have nothing against rus it is a fine country.. However not the other one.. no need to push it when i am trying to be polite but if I was being hostile you would know but that is not my intention.. By way that country is on a shxt list nothing will change it if even angles were to descent from skies aiding them we would destroy them..
 
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