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zxy_bc

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It’s basically over now that the Russians are going in. Which is the whole point and purpose of this particular CIA operations.

The mobs were never expected to succeed in toppling the government, nor had they ever had any realistic chances of doing so.

They were only suppose to cause so much chaos and havoc that Russia is forced to deploy troops to help stabilise the situation.

This helps to make any overt Russian military action against Ukraine less likely, and also provides more pretext for America to force the EU into joining them in sanctioning Russia.
It took the Russian 13 hours from receiving Kazakhstan’s request to the first deployment of aerospace force troops in airbases. Only 13 hours.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Unable to contest with Kazakhstan special forces in downtown Almaty, armed mobs now are besieging two intensive care hospitals in Almaty suburbs, burning ambulances and fire trucks along the way.
The military should wipe those shitheads clean. They're asking for it might as well give those "revolutionaries" a fitting end to their barbarity. I have no sympathy for would be revolutionaries that has no plan or is no better than the folks they're trying to obliterate. I have yet to see it worked in countries where this type of upheaval produced nothing but destruction, mayhem, and misery to the very people these maggots claim to fight for.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Instead they decided that hospitals filled with intensive care patients and doctors are their primary targets. Also beheading people in ISIS style seems to be their trait.
This is why I want those maggots to be liquidated in whatever way possible. These type of behavior must be dealt with with extreme prejudice so that it'll prevent any morons out there from ever thinking, contemplating of doing as a form of rebellion in from whatever countries they're from.
 

Overbom

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Not really. During the French Revolution, that happened to the nobles and the new government became equally as corrupt as the previous monarchical government. The next government’s cleanliness ultimately depends on the competence of its system.
I don't disagree. The French had multiple tries before they got it right (will they do it again...).
Keep breaking eggs and you will eventually find a good solution.

I will say it again, this kind of corruption can kill the country. The oligarchs can say what they want, but when I see normal people getting screwed over so that the oligarchs can pocket the profits then I don't care about them.

This is why I want those maggots to be liquidated in whatever way possible. These type of behavior must be dealt with with extreme prejudice so that it'll prevent any morons out there from ever thinking, contemplating of doing as a form of rebellion in from whatever countries they're from.
I agree but what will happen to the corrupt idiots in the government. Will they get some sort of punishment or will they get away by using Russian troops as a cover?

Russia can send all the troops it wants but if the Kazakhstan government doesn't take active steps to improve things then inevitably an even bigger rebellion what will happen

Governance is key. The mobs/protesters/rebels will rise again with wider support from the population if the new government doesn't improve
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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I don't disagree. The French had multiple tries before they got it right (will they do it again...).
Keep breaking eggs and you will eventually find a good solution.

I will say it again, this kind of corruption can kill the country. The oligarchs can say what they want, but when I see normal people getting screwed over so that the oligarchs can pocket the profits then I don't care about them.


I agree but what will happen to the corrupt idiots in the government. Will they get some sort of punishment or will they get away by using Russian troops as a cover?

Russia can send all the troops it wants but if the Kazakhstan government doesn't take active steps to improve things then inevitably an even bigger rebellion what will happen

Governance is key. The mobs/protesters/rebels will rise again with wider support from the population if the new government doesn't improve
Oh I’m not saying the government is clean and holy. The government and elites caused this to happen. I’m just addressing the 100 years part. Killing doesn’t do anything. Ultimately trial by fire/like what you said, keep breaking eggs until something works, is the only way for people to find a way to curb corruption.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Woman was 8 month pregnant, went to her local hospital in Xi’an due to abdominal pain. Was refused treatment because of Covid lockdown. She waited 4 hours, almost bled out before hospital decided to finally see her. Ended up loosing her child after 8 months of pregnancy.

There are also reports of people bartering for food in Xi’an due to the extreme lockdown. Or people with preexisting heart conditions dying of heart failure because they were refused to be seen by the hospital.

America has no coherent Covid strategy. China on the other hand is pushing its lock down to the extreme. Local governments following Party directives to the T; their jobs and promotions are on the line.
Unfortunate. Now write a post for each of the hundreds of thousands of COVID deaths in the US. One post for each.
 

Appix

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Japan-Australia defence deal could add fuel to China-US rivalry, analysts say​

  • Agreement will ease the way for deployment of Australian and Japanese forces and is expected to herald more joint military exercises
  • Conditions could conspire to force more countries in the region to take sides, observer says
A “landmark”
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could further fuel competition between China and US-led allies and deepen worries that countries in the region may be forced to take sides, Chinese observers warned.

The prime ministers of Japan and Australia signed the Reciprocal Assessment Agreement on Thursday, allowing faster deployment of defence personnel to each other’s facilities and easing restrictions on transporting weapons and supplies for joint training and disaster relief operations.

More naval war games and aviation exercises are also expected under the new deal.
During the signing ceremony for the agreement, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the deal was a landmark treaty that would open “a new chapter for advanced defence and security cooperation of what is a complex and rapidly changing world”.

“Japan is our closest partner in Asia as demonstrated by our special strategic partnership, Australia’s only such partnership – an equal partnership of shared trust between two great democracies committed to the rule of law, human rights, free trade and a free and open Indo-Pacific,” Morrison said.
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said the agreement would “bring Japan-Australia security cooperation to a new level”.

Japan has also been in talks with Britain for a similar agreement since October.
Thursday’s deal is the latest effort to bolster defence ties between the two countries, two firm allies of the United States.

In 2012, Japan and Australia signed an information agreement on sharing intelligence and five years later they inked the Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement, allowing them to share fuel and other supplies in joint exercises, training and peacekeeping operations.

Thursday’s agreement is the first formal defence pact covering foreign soldiers that Japan has signed since the 1960 Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, which allows American military personnel to travel directly in and out of US bases in Japan without immigration.

Amid growing concerns over China’s influence in the region, the US and its allies are moving to deepen their cooperation in part of a Washington-led alliance strategy to counter Beijing.
In September, the US, Australia and Britain announced the establishment of a
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, also known as Aukus, which also paves the way for Australia to build nuclear-powered submarines.

The US, Japan and Australia are also part of a defence cooperation grouping with India known as the Quad. In a joint statement released after Thursday’s ceremony, Kishida and Morrison said they welcomed a US commitment to close cooperation with allies in the region. The two nations would reinforce their alliances with the US, and looked forward to conducting a trilateral strategic dialogue.

Shi Yinhong, an international relations professor with Renmin University, said US-led defence cooperation in the region had become more complex, with China an apparent target.

“Apart from India, the military cooperation among the three Quad countries, as well as Britain, have been getting increasingly … practical and warmongering,” he said.
Chen Xiangmiao, an associate research fellow with the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, said the US was forming more small groups against China, but Beijing was unlikely to back down.

“The US is letting its allies take a bigger responsibility in security affairs in the region while countries like Japan are becoming active in playing a role in Washington’s Indo-Pacific strategy to counter China,” Chen said. “It will be more and more difficult for small countries in the region to maintain autonomy in foreign policy and they will eventually be forced to take sides between China and the US.”

Shi said great power confrontation was expected to intensify to a dangerous level if India and Russia decided to step in.

So far, India, a Quad member which is now locked in a border stand-off with China, remains reluctant to openly join the US-led “containment” against China. Russia, which is widely seen as a quasi-ally to China, has maintained a neutral position over China’s long-standing territorial disputes in the South China Sea and Taiwan, two issues that are widely seen as the most likely military flashpoints in the region. “But if the two countries changed their current positions, the Indo-Pacific region would face a very serious situation of military confrontation between major power groups and that could include the possible conflicts,” Shi said.

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caudaceus

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Do we have news about China response to the current situation in Kazakhstan?
Seems too important to be neglected.
 

Overbom

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Do we have news about China response to the current situation in Kazakhstan?
Seems too important to be neglected.
China is eating melons right now. Kazakhstan is in Russia's sphere of security influence

These riots will economically weaken Kazakhstan which will force it to turn towards China even more than before. Meanwhile Russia will be disliked by the population even more than before (they also dislike China lol)

In any case, as long as it won't get destabilised then China won't lose much and might even benefit
 
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