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Xizor

Captain
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it is confusing for new people who haven't read the real history of current Turkey.
Erdogan worked on old formula of managing former Ottoman empire territories on behalf of Germany. but it is not same Germany what he thought. Turkey military and airlines are completely Western depended but it is Germanic economic system that is destroying Turkey internally. he also fears a new state created in place of Ukraine where muslim oligarchs are much richer than him as that state will attract Arab and Russian investment.
All this crises make him act like headless chicken in all directions. it is just entertaining to observe it.
Is it German economic system to cut interest rates when you have climbing inflation ?
Germany is an export powerhouse. Not Turkey. What do they do with such depreciating currency ? It has fallen too low to give meaningful export success and growth. Turkey is going to find a good place in Economics books.

And its quite far fetched to believe a Tatar republic to rise from Ukraine, let alone they'll become rich. A new state created from the present Ukraine ( however that may happen) won't prosper due to the sanctions EU and US will place. Arabs won't invest if western sanctions kick in. Russia itself is threatened with considerable sanctions if Ukraine falls. Erdogan must be on drugs.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
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Is it German economic system to cut interest rates when you have climbing inflation ?
Germany is an export powerhouse. Not Turkey. What do they do with such depreciating currency ? It has fallen too low to give meaningful export success and growth. Turkey is going to find a good place in Economics books.

And its quite far fetched to believe a Tatar republic to rise from Ukraine, let alone they'll become rich. A new state created from the present Ukraine ( however that may happen) won't prosper due to the sanctions EU and US will place. Arabs won't invest if western sanctions kick in. Russia itself is threatened with considerable sanctions if Ukraine falls. Erdogan must be on drugs.
If I remember correctly, Erdogan publically said that he wants Turkey to follow the "China model" for development (actually it isn't China who pioneered the export-oriented model but who would expect Erdogan to study some history...)

So in his infinite wisdom, he is trying to create a drastic shock in order to artificially lower Turkish Lira's value in order to attract more investment in its industries

AFAIK Turkey is actually industrializing right now, however this high exchange rate volatility is not good for the overall development of Turkey.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
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Is it German economic system to cut interest rates when you have climbing inflation ?
Germany is an export powerhouse. Not Turkey. What do they do with such depreciating currency ? It has fallen too low to give meaningful export success and growth. Turkey is going to find a good place in Economics books.

And its quite far fetched to believe a Tatar republic to rise from Ukraine, let alone they'll become rich. A new state created from the present Ukraine ( however that may happen) won't prosper due to the sanctions EU and US will place. Arabs won't invest if western sanctions kick in. Russia itself is threatened with considerable sanctions if Ukraine falls. Erdogan must be on drugs.
If I remember correctly, Erdogan publically said that he wants Turkey to follow the "China model" for development (actually it isn't China who pioneered the export-oriented model but who would expect Erdogan to study some history...)

So in his infinite wisdom, he is trying to create a drastic shock in order to artificially lower Turkish Lira's value in order to attract more investment in its industries

AFAIK Turkey is actually industrializing right now, however this high exchange rate volatility is not good for the overall development of Turkey. Basically Erdogan wants Turkey to emulate China
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
If I remember correctly, Erdogan publically said that he wants Turkey to follow the "China model" for development (actually it isn't China who pioneered the export-oriented model but who would expect Erdogan to study some history...)

So in his infinite wisdom, he is trying to create a drastic shock in order to artificially lower Turkish Lira's value in order to attract more investment in its industries
@Overbom bro that is a wrong strategy, the Russian did it during the Yeltsin era and look what happen? A total disaster which led to stagnation, alcoholism, increase in suicide rate and low birth rate. It also led to an oligarchy system that weakens the gov't control and function. It takes Putin 20 years to correct the mistake.

Also should learned from our experience during the 1997 Asian Crisis, where our industries and public utilities were sold for cheap (as demanded by WB and IMF), It was an economic imperialism, stealing the gains we had achieved and benefitting foreign Capital.(which cannibalized those industries and resold it at a premium)
AFAIK Turkey is actually industrializing right now, however this high exchange rate volatility is not good for the overall development of Turkey. Basically Erdogan wants Turkey to emulate China
Bro emulating China you need to take hard decision Not Populism and also a climate of peace and stability instead of pursuing a dream of an Ottoman Caliphate 2.0.

It missed the Bus regarding industrialization and Turkey should wake up from her illusion about joining EU, the West will never allow a strong Turkey, she should look East and settled all problems in her peripheries and focus on economic development, there is a chance with BRI as the Russian and the Chinese are receptive of Turkey participation.
 
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horse

Colonel
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Oh man! This is too funny!

Signing onto the RCEP kind of sidelines America, in other words, it isolates America.

The solution according the this PhD candidate, is to sanction those same countries, pushing them even further away from America.

China must counter this potential American action! With what? No one knows?! China has no counter to this. Next report in the news is how weak China is!

The other real funny thing is that the RCEP was negotiated for years, which was discussed in these forums for years. Even India negotiated for 2 years before bolting. Blah, blah, blah.

Why complain now? They literally had years to prepare for this?!

So much unnecessary butt hurt.

:rolleyes: :D
 

Kaeshmiri

Junior Member
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2:30 This Old man and the Brown Jacket guy were very the only based folks in this whole 22 min video. The rest were repeating the same talking points we see in the Western media reg Taiwan being democratic, unique culture, China having labor camps etc. And most importantly many were very confident that China will never reunify by force as they'll have to deal with US, UN , Japan etc .
But the old man being Wise reminded that US looks for self interest & will dump Taiwan the same way they dumped Afghans & Kurds so people shouldn't depend on them and rather sit down with mainland and peacefully resolve the issue.

Also Asian Boss tries to act very smart as if people wont notice what they did here. Watch how they frame they question in a malicious way. They asked ppl their views on China and then gave a distinction bw Chinese People and Govt. Typical Anti China trope used by Westerners to hate on China all day. ( we HaTe the GoVt nOt thE PeoPle)
 
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