Miscellaneous News

Chish

Junior Member
Registered Member
India actually thinks that all you need to become a manufacturing superpower is infrastructure and investment.

They forget that more than Infra/Investment what you need is a strong work culture/ethics. The thing with WC is it cant be taught but is rather inculcated over generations. Its a reflection of the society in general.

In this case the issue stemmed from Indian Contractors who were in charge of hiring, housing, food etc. India is a massively corrupt society and private sector is no exception. These contractors won the contract by underbidding their competition . So from where else will they make money other than exploiting their own workers.
India do have a strong work culture/ethics but it's still based on centuries old Hindu caste system. The present BJP government under Modi is very nationalistic and seen as a defender of Hindu nationalism, has massive public supports is actually a handicap to a more prograssive modern India. A problem Foxconn recongised and is taking appropriate actions such as increasing their China productions at lease temporary.

 

Chish

Junior Member
Registered Member
The German car manufacturers still have a premium brand in China, so they should end up ok in the end.

It's the car manufacturers who don't have a premium brand which will really lose out.
Korean, Japanese and French ones come to mind, along with Ford.
The Japanese already have contingency in place. Toyota had teamed up with BYD and Mitsubishi with GAC to manufacture and sale EV in China under their Japanese badges.
 

Tyler

Captain
Registered Member
The Japanese already have contingency in place. Toyota had teamed up with BYD and Mitsubishi with GAC to manufacture and sale EV in China under their Japanese badges.
The Japanese need to act accordingly by pivoting to China to stay relevant. toyota should be banned in China for strategic reasons.
 

drowingfish

Junior Member
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The world’s largest trade agreement is set to enter into force on Jan. 1, 2022, with China—not the U.S.—at its helm.

If the Biden administration isn’t panicked yet, it should be.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, or CPTPP, earlier this fall was a blow to U.S. interests in the Indo-Pacific region. But the entry into force of the Regional Cooperation Economic Partnership, or RCEP, a trade deal among 15 countries covering nearly a third of global gross domestic product, 53% of the world’s exports, and 2.3 billion people that orbits around China’s economy, is just as bad.

Originally launched in 2012, negotiations among China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, India, and the 10 Association of Southeast Asian Nations member states languished through much of the deal’s history but intensified in 2017 when the U.S. withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. At the same time, China sought to establish deeper Asean supply chains as an alternative to a fracturing U.S.-China economic relationship. India’s withdrawal from the RCEP negotiations in late 2019 cleared the way for the deal to conclude on Nov. 15, 2020.

With its 20 chapters and additional annexes, RCEP is broad—if not deep—in its coverage. Its commitments eliminate tariffs on 90% of all trade within the 15-country bloc and reduce regional inefficiencies and customs burdens. Many of RCEP’s rules are rightfully criticized as lackluster, especially with respect to disciplines on investment, services, agriculture, and intellectual-property rights. RCEP also leaves out key rules on labor, the environment, and state-owned enterprises, provisions that feature prominently in U.S.-led trade deals like the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement.
Yet what RCEP lacks in depth, it more than makes up for in geopolitical ambition. RCEP is China’s first regional trade deal, and the first trade agreement between China, Japan, and South Korea—all key U.S. export markets. As the largest economy within the bloc, and largest or second-largest trading partner of every RCEP member, China will have outsize influence in setting future standards and regulations for the region moving forward. Lower tariffs, common rules of origin with a relatively low-value content threshold, and eased trade facilitation will help China lock in regional supply chains, attract new foreign investment, and expand its Belt and Road Initiative by strengthening transportation, energy, and communication links. RCEP’s standing secretariat gives the bloc a sense of permanency and provides China with a platform to further integrate its state-centric economic model.
The entry into force of RCEP poses significant concerns for the U.S. Commercially, U.S. manufacturers and workers all stand to lose from the deal. U.S. agriculture also will become less competitive in Asia compared with its Australian and Japanese competitors. The common RCEP rules of origin will incentivize the use of Chinese components throughout ASEAN and lead to a deepening of Chinese-linked supply chains, which could scuttle the Biden administration’s diplomatic and economic supply-chain efforts in the region.

While the U.S. maintains bilateral trade deals with Singapore, Australia, and South Korea, and a mini-deal with Japan, the trend toward regionalization, coupled with the failure of the World Trade Organization to advance new multilateral rules, gives China an important advantage in shaping not just the future of the region, but also global trade rules moving forward. This is especially true if China successfully accedes to the other regional trade bloc, the CPTPP. How to counter China’s growing trade and economic influence without rejoining that deal is one of the most pressing questions facing the Biden administration as it seeks to cobble together an Indo-Pacific strategy.
Currently under consideration is an Indo-Pacific digital trade deal, an idea that lacks ambition and reads like a consolation prize following U.S. withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the precursor to the CPTPP. The optics alone of the U.S. pursuing an 11-page digital deal while China simultaneously negotiates thousands of pages of rules covering all aspects of its trade relationship with the same CPTPP countries are demoralizing.
More appealing would be if the Biden administration turned the recently announced Indo-Pacific Economic Framework into something substantive.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo touted the framework as a “new kind of agreement” that will be “more robust” than CPTPP, but left out any detail on timing, structure, or countries involved. If the framework were to combine new trade rules with commercial deals and national security priorities like export controls, supply chains, and 5G, it could be significant. That’s a big “if,” however, and it’s not clear what the administration can realistically accomplish in the next two years, particularly if it wants to steer clear of anything that would require congressional approval or agitate the progressive left.
The most obvious answer, unfortunately, is also the most politically challenging: The U.S. should rejoin the CPTPP. Despite its baggage, it isn’t clear that CPTPP is as much of a political nonstarter as the administration seems to believe. The politics that torpedoed its predecessor, TPP, in 2017 have changed, along with the overwhelming national security and economic justifications for an Indo-Pacific deal that keeps China out of a U.S.-led Pacific. Congress’ original objections largely have been overcome by events. And, despite having campaigned against it, even President Donald Trump toyed with the idea of getting back in with acceptable changes—I was in the room when we discussed it.

Today, the U.S. would need to negotiate improvements to provisions on labor, the environment, automotive rules of origin, state-owned enterprises, and intellectual-property rights to survive a congressional vote. Admittedly, it may not be easy for CPTPP in any form to pass a Democratic-controlled Congress, including with progressive priorities, but that’s exactly why trade requires presidential leadership. As to whether CPTPP countries would be open to improving the text, my sense is they would embrace it if it meant bringing the U.S. back into the region as a counterweight to China.
Whatever the administration decides, America needs an offensive and meaningful economic agenda for the Indo-Pacific. RCEP’s entry into force on Jan. 1 is a significant blow to U.S. interests and only reinforces the point that continuing to focus exclusively on domestic industrial policy is not an effective strategy for countering China’s growing influence in the region.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The world’s largest trade agreement is set to enter into force on Jan. 1, 2022, with China—not the U.S.—at its helm.

If the Biden administration isn’t panicked yet, it should be.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, or CPTPP, earlier this fall was a blow to U.S. interests in the Indo-Pacific region. But the entry into force of the Regional Cooperation Economic Partnership, or RCEP, a trade deal among 15 countries covering nearly a third of global gross domestic product, 53% of the world’s exports, and 2.3 billion people that orbits around China’s economy, is just as bad.

Originally launched in 2012, negotiations among China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, India, and the 10 Association of Southeast Asian Nations member states languished through much of the deal’s history but intensified in 2017 when the U.S. withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. At the same time, China sought to establish deeper Asean supply chains as an alternative to a fracturing U.S.-China economic relationship. India’s withdrawal from the RCEP negotiations in late 2019 cleared the way for the deal to conclude on Nov. 15, 2020.

With its 20 chapters and additional annexes, RCEP is broad—if not deep—in its coverage. Its commitments eliminate tariffs on 90% of all trade within the 15-country bloc and reduce regional inefficiencies and customs burdens. Many of RCEP’s rules are rightfully criticized as lackluster, especially with respect to disciplines on investment, services, agriculture, and intellectual-property rights. RCEP also leaves out key rules on labor, the environment, and state-owned enterprises, provisions that feature prominently in U.S.-led trade deals like the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement.
Yet what RCEP lacks in depth, it more than makes up for in geopolitical ambition. RCEP is China’s first regional trade deal, and the first trade agreement between China, Japan, and South Korea—all key U.S. export markets. As the largest economy within the bloc, and largest or second-largest trading partner of every RCEP member, China will have outsize influence in setting future standards and regulations for the region moving forward. Lower tariffs, common rules of origin with a relatively low-value content threshold, and eased trade facilitation will help China lock in regional supply chains, attract new foreign investment, and expand its Belt and Road Initiative by strengthening transportation, energy, and communication links. RCEP’s standing secretariat gives the bloc a sense of permanency and provides China with a platform to further integrate its state-centric economic model.
The entry into force of RCEP poses significant concerns for the U.S. Commercially, U.S. manufacturers and workers all stand to lose from the deal. U.S. agriculture also will become less competitive in Asia compared with its Australian and Japanese competitors. The common RCEP rules of origin will incentivize the use of Chinese components throughout ASEAN and lead to a deepening of Chinese-linked supply chains, which could scuttle the Biden administration’s diplomatic and economic supply-chain efforts in the region.

While the U.S. maintains bilateral trade deals with Singapore, Australia, and South Korea, and a mini-deal with Japan, the trend toward regionalization, coupled with the failure of the World Trade Organization to advance new multilateral rules, gives China an important advantage in shaping not just the future of the region, but also global trade rules moving forward. This is especially true if China successfully accedes to the other regional trade bloc, the CPTPP. How to counter China’s growing trade and economic influence without rejoining that deal is one of the most pressing questions facing the Biden administration as it seeks to cobble together an Indo-Pacific strategy.
Currently under consideration is an Indo-Pacific digital trade deal, an idea that lacks ambition and reads like a consolation prize following U.S. withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the precursor to the CPTPP. The optics alone of the U.S. pursuing an 11-page digital deal while China simultaneously negotiates thousands of pages of rules covering all aspects of its trade relationship with the same CPTPP countries are demoralizing.
More appealing would be if the Biden administration turned the recently announced Indo-Pacific Economic Framework into something substantive.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo touted the framework as a “new kind of agreement” that will be “more robust” than CPTPP, but left out any detail on timing, structure, or countries involved. If the framework were to combine new trade rules with commercial deals and national security priorities like export controls, supply chains, and 5G, it could be significant. That’s a big “if,” however, and it’s not clear what the administration can realistically accomplish in the next two years, particularly if it wants to steer clear of anything that would require congressional approval or agitate the progressive left.
The most obvious answer, unfortunately, is also the most politically challenging: The U.S. should rejoin the CPTPP. Despite its baggage, it isn’t clear that CPTPP is as much of a political nonstarter as the administration seems to believe. The politics that torpedoed its predecessor, TPP, in 2017 have changed, along with the overwhelming national security and economic justifications for an Indo-Pacific deal that keeps China out of a U.S.-led Pacific. Congress’ original objections largely have been overcome by events. And, despite having campaigned against it, even President Donald Trump toyed with the idea of getting back in with acceptable changes—I was in the room when we discussed it.

Today, the U.S. would need to negotiate improvements to provisions on labor, the environment, automotive rules of origin, state-owned enterprises, and intellectual-property rights to survive a congressional vote. Admittedly, it may not be easy for CPTPP in any form to pass a Democratic-controlled Congress, including with progressive priorities, but that’s exactly why trade requires presidential leadership. As to whether CPTPP countries would be open to improving the text, my sense is they would embrace it if it meant bringing the U.S. back into the region as a counterweight to China.
Whatever the administration decides, America needs an offensive and meaningful economic agenda for the Indo-Pacific. RCEP’s entry into force on Jan. 1 is a significant blow to U.S. interests and only reinforces the point that continuing to focus exclusively on domestic industrial policy is not an effective strategy for countering China’s growing influence in the region.
@drowingfish bro the US had an answer, it's not about trade agreement it's more of being a fair actor/player in the world stage. The reason her allies Australia, Japan and SK willingly sign RCEP because of the weaponization of trade and the dollar.
 
Top