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Your statement is just bizarre.

There's factual evidence of overloaded trucks pushing the bridge over its tolerance limit, and somehow you're blaming the engineers for not building a bridge with higher tolerance?
Overloaded trucks can reasonably be anticipated to use this bridge over a span of 50 or more years. Shouldn't the engineer properly anticipate that? That is exactly why engineers are employed to design the bridge. Builders will build according to engineering design. The picture does not show any building shortcomings. Not yet anyway.
 

solarz

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Overloaded trucks can reasonably be anticipated to use this bridge over a span of 50 or more years. Shouldn't the engineer properly anticipate that? That is exactly why engineers are employed to design the bridge. Builders will build according to engineering design. The picture does not show any building shortcomings. Not yet anyway.

In a fantasy, every building would be built to withstand Richter 10 earthquakes, every dam would be built to withstand once in a million year foods, and every bridge would be built to withstand anything that can pass over it for a million years.

In reality, there's such a thing as budgetary constraints.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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In a fantasy, every building would be built to withstand Richter 10 earthquakes, every dam would be built to withstand once in a million year foods, and every bridge would be built to withstand anything that can pass over it for a million years.

In reality, there's such a thing as budgetary constraints.
This.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Look man there's no such thing as a foolproof bridge. You can spend $20 billion dollars reinforcing every bridge in the country but there's an opportunity cost for it.

In a perfect world every sedan has the safety features of a Formula One racing car but it's economically prohibitive.
 

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Look man there's no such thing as a foolproof bridge. You can spend $20 billion dollars reinforcing every bridge in the country but there's an opportunity cost for it.

In a perfect world every sedan has the safety features of a Formula One racing car but it's economically prohibitive.
There is no way to prevent such accidents if there are people dead set to break the law doing illegal actions.
Below accident is only 6 months ago.

Driver arrested after mounted crane crashes into Balestier Road pedestrian bridge, causing road closure​

Jun 5, 2021

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The police said the heavy motor vehicle exceeded 4.5m in height at the time of the accident and that it was on the road without police escort, which is illegal in Singapore.
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What's an effective design that can prevent people from breaking the law? I'm sure lots of people in the government would love to hear it.
where did it say that any law was broken? truckers will drive through any road that they are allowed and no law will be broken,
Show me the quote where it says a law has been broken, It only mentioned that overweight trucks caused the accident and this is an obvious observation, Is this really the only cause?

What makes you think those measures weren't in place?

i said looks like the poor design elements to blame, I take issue with the ministry of transport spokeperson saying the official cause of accident is overweight semi-trailers as if that is the only cause. Nothing will be learned from this approached.

I am saying the reality is likely more nuance and there are plenty of blame to go around including poor design as no law was known to have been violated. Whatever other measures taken was not sufficient to prevent this accident as it has already happened.

The report also mentioned the bridge was structurally sound so workmanship was not directly to blame either.

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In a fantasy, every building would be built to withstand Richter 10 earthquakes, every dam would be built to withstand once in a million year foods, and every bridge would be built to withstand anything that can pass over it for a million years.

In reality, there's such a thing as budgetary constraints.
If the area is knowingly susceptible to Richter 10 earthquake which we know is not, then design element should include this in the design. THe design requirement for lifespan of the bridge and/or dam will determine the required structural integrity. Don't get cute with your million year argument. Will we still need bridge in a million years?

Look man there's no such thing as a foolproof bridge. You can spend $20 billion dollars reinforcing every bridge in the country but there's an opportunity cost for it.

In a perfect world every sedan has the safety features of a Formula One racing car but it's economically prohibitive.

All reasonable effort should be taken to save lives and preserve the integrity of the bridge. This accident was a preventable accident with the proper design, management, regulation and enforcement of above, I certainly they take the proper measures to rectify any shortcomings that they are willing to learn from this accident.

Now, I am theorizing poor construction was the cause. That sort of design is commonplace, so someone must have botched something somewhere.

By the way the Article above and MInistry of Transport spokeperson stated the bridge was structurally sound without defect. THe only exception is it was not able to handle the load of real-life usage.
 
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3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection

As Ray Dalio said in his new book, people often think it'll be fine until it's too late to get out. And that includes your financial assets, which will be frozen and confiscated.

The chances of an insurrection rises higher if a character called Hillary or Donald enters the race. Or both at the same time.
 

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3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection

As Ray Dalio said in his new book, people often think it'll be fine until it's too late to get out. And that includes your financial assets, which will be frozen and confiscated.

The chances of an insurrection rises higher if a character called Hillary or Donald enters the race. Or both at the same time.
The 2024 elections are going to be a big mess.

China should start preparing for what to do in the above scenario. After all, what a better way to unite a country than creating an external threat...
 
Every now and then in Singapore, we still have idiot drivers hitting our overhead bridges.
We cannot be building ever higher overhead bridges whenever an idiot crash into it with their too high loads, could we?
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You can perhaps start by introducing a law to regulate the height allowed for vehicles, penalize any violation and/or provide clear warnings to drivers for low bridges, etc. I'm sure you get the idea.

I think you guys can figure out what is reasonable or not depending on cost of lives and damages,

When the cost in property and lives is high enough, you do what you need to do.
 
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