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LawLeadsToPeace

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taxiya said:
I think that is what China has been saying all the time about "western democracy". The saying goes like this "there is no universal form of democracy. Democracy is a choice based on history and customs, it must fit and be adjusted to each country's reality. It would be counter-productive if one specific form of democracy is forced upon".
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In my opinion, instead of saying, “one specific form of democracy”, it should just be democracy. Some states just can’t use democracy whatsoever due to many variables like the environment, education levels, and cultural values. Promoting various forms of democracy is still, in a way, endorsing democracy (as a whole) as a universal value. In short, based on what you said, I would just say this:

“Democracy as a whole is not a universal value. It is a choice based on history and customs, it must fit and be adjusted to each country's reality. It would be counter-productive if democracy is forced upon”
 
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zxy_bc said:
If you are keen on learning Chinese take on Democracy and the Chinese Democratic Supervision structure, I could give you a link on the English version of the recently published Chinese Democratic White Paper.
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Where's the English version link for the white paper
 
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xypher said:
So USSR was not a threat to the West because it could not even impose its will on both Europe & Asia? Lol. China is a threat to the West because stronger China = declining influence of the West, the same thing that was present when the USSR was intact. It creates another point of power where the smaller countries can flock, while in a unipolar world you either obey the West or you basically get isolated. Another important thing is that Asia is already the main driver of the world's economic growth and that is going to only accelerate as China moves up the value chains, transitioning parts of the supply chain to SEA\SA.
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USSR was threat as it was withholding the best and brightest from West. China cannot with hold best and brightest from Asia moving to West.. It does not matter whether its Taiwianesw or Vietnamese or anyone else.
Look at the Maritians scientists from Hungry from Pre-Communist era and there contribution to US. That communism stop the scientific progress and wealth creation.
xypher said:
What's the point you are trying to convey? KSA has both greater reserves (far greater, actually) and is a larger exporter of oil than Russia. Let's also not forget that KSA petroleum is probably THE cheapest to exploit (there were studies that indicated that some of the KSA oil fields could still be profitable at the oil prices of like $5 per barrel), while most Russian oil is located in North-West Siberia with a harsh climate and the need to transfer it via pipes in order to sell it to anyone. I don't even get the second link, Russia exports fertilizers and grain to South Korea, so what? India exports tons of food too, so Indians were right and superpower 2020 is the reality?
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Russia much more sophisticated and refined oil. everything is computerized control. no need to make announcements.
To squeeze EU. refined diesel are exported to US.
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xypher said:
I know that you are Russia (and Europe) fanboy but why do you think that Russia is a greater threat with a GDP less than South Korea? The US rhetoric and actions indicate that it perceives China as the primary competitor & threat currently, whether you want to admit it or not. This has been the case since Obama's "pivot to Asia".
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South Korea does not have GDP. Only GDP matter what you own and control.
 
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China describes its form of democracy as 'whole-process democracy'.

Based on its own reality, China is exploring a path of inheritance and innovation in realizing democratic values and is pursuing a "substantial democracy" in which the people are the masters of the country. The democracy China practices is a "whole-process democracy" that covers all aspects and all procedures, a "governance democracy" for good governance, an "efficient democracy" with vitality, a "democracy as a driving force" with collective wisdom, and a testable "systematic democracy." All in all, it is the broadest, most genuine and most effective socialist democracy
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pmc said:
USSR was threat as it was withholding the best and brightest from West. China cannot with hold best and brightest from Asia moving to West.. It does not matter whether its Taiwianesw or Vietnamese or anyone else.
Look at the Maritians scientists from Hungry from Pre-Communist era and there contribution to US. That communism stop the scientific progress and wealth creation.
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Note that it is the West which is saying that the Chinese are not welcome
And even before the current hostile environment, Asians were subject to a glass ceiling

Plus if you are brilliant, the opportunities in China are far greater than in the US
 
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