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9dashline

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Why should China answer to the West? China is a great civilisation and has no reason to answer to any foreign power. Great nations don’t beg for approval of others. That’s an Indian thing to do.
Yes, this has CIA written literally all over it.

The objective is to smear China, to target its leaders, and also more cunningly to try to subvert Chinese government to have to "answer" to the West by playing their game on their terms using their standards..

Doesnt look good for the declining hegemony to resort to cheap parlor tricks like this
 

Topazchen

Junior Member
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You can actually see the response to my comment above and see why China will continue losing the propaganda war .

What these incidents do is reinforce the notion that the CCP (note not China) is a 'brutal and oppresive dictatorship' that disappears anyone who reveals information that threaten the high ups just like they did to Dr Wenliang and Jack Ma .The intention is to deligitimize the party in the world and to some extent in China .

With China failing to counter the narrative or communication being ineffectual it has paved way for consent to be manufactured in the West . The reason why bullsh1t propaganda like debt trap and Uighur 'genocide' has been so effective is not because the West is so effective but because of comical Chinese responses .
A good example is how I see Chinese media showing Uighur dancing as evidence that there is no 'genocide' taking place .

Very frustrating for pro China foreigners .
 

getready

Senior Member
First step for China to do is kick out the WTA tournaments from China. Since they threatened China, China should kick them out first.
No need. It's better to call their bluff. Under normal circumstances WTA dun have the balls to ban china. It relies more on China market and investment than china needs the WTA.

The reason they can act all tough and brazen at the moment is cuz due to covid all wta tournaments in China are cancelled. So it doesn't matter wat happens at the short medium term wta can't have tournaments in China anyway.

If and when pandemic situation back to normal. We will see if wta really carry out its threats. My bet is they won't and they will greedily beg for Chinese involvement.
 

emblem21

Major
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IF the USA waging war with words and winning against China is really meaningful, how come the US economy is about to drop of the cliff while China's economy is rising with no end in sight. Here is a secret that the west seems to ignore all the time, media only helps so much while the real power are those that can bring real results. Biden spends a year in office and all he managed to accomplished is making an enemy out of Russia and China while trying to hide the sheer depths of how bad the situation is to the American public (which ultimately plays to both nations advantage by completely ensuring that any accomplishment (things that the USA ought to take seriously) is hidden while any imagined bad deed gets top billing, which may have lasting consequences if both nations are willing to let it shake them which in reality is only making both nations hate the USA more and more and more determined to play to there strengths then to play according to America's rules which is becoming more and more like Judge Judy. The USA has an advantage in their ability to lies and present their views better then China due to how this is their main domain where if they cannot win fairly, simply lie endlessly and present things in a manner where trying to explain the truth will fall on deaf ears because really, China simply doesn't have in them to lie on such a grand scale and sink to the same level as the USA is doing because while the USA may win the war of worlds, can you say the same about how much the USA has fallen in the process, just look no further at how if they could use all that capacity to lie and the capacity to wage war to well, unload the ships in LA, they may be able to have a real Christmas this year instead of the current situation they have right now.

Lying 1000 times will never turn into truth and right now, this stupidity in getting into a pissing match with China isn't helping inflation one bit and right now, the USA is finding that they need China more and more, which means that if the media still cannot stop its pissing match, well China and Russia could easily let the lies make the decision to simply let the USA collapse speak for itself because really, in the end, money matters more then media and if both nations decide that the USA is not deserving of resources or capital, well really, what can the USA do to convince both nations that the USA is worth their time, instead of trying to do another photo op that means nothing. Their will come a time where the media and its hard on for bias will eventually be used as an excuse by both nation to strike the USA when they are vulnerable rather then hold back if the media was less confrontational and less crazy then they are now.
 
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escobar

Brigadier
You can actually see the response to my comment above and see why China will continue losing the propaganda war .

What these incidents do is reinforce the notion that the CCP (note not China) is a 'brutal and oppresive dictatorship' that disappears anyone who reveals information that threaten the high ups just like they did to Dr Wenliang and Jack Ma .The intention is to deligitimize the party in the world and to some extent in China .

With China failing to counter the narrative or communication being ineffectual it has paved way for consent to be manufactured in the West . The reason why bullsh1t propaganda like debt trap and Uighur 'genocide' has been so effective is not because the West is so effective but because of comical Chinese responses .
A good example is how I see Chinese media showing Uighur dancing as evidence that there is no 'genocide' taking place .

Very frustrating for pro China foreigners
CN can't counter US PR because somehow they like it. The only issue they have with US PR is that it is used against them.
Now add their incompetence and you get all their shit attempt to counter US PR.
 

emblem21

Major
Registered Member
CN can't counter US PR because somehow they like it. The only issue they have with US PR is that it is used against them.
Now add their incompetence and you get all their shit attempt to counter US PR.
Yeah, China cannot counter their PR simply because to do so means they have to discard what makes a Chinese person Chinese in order to become more western and more like a clown to win trolling points just to gain come gratification on the world stage but really, what is more dangerous, the USA and its media trying to cancel a person or China with there hypersonic missiles being ready to launch at any time. One of these two will kill in 30 mins (maybe a lot less if this is launched from a nuclear sub) while the other may kill via extreme rage bursting a blood vessel which I can guarantee is more likely to happen to a red neck then a Chinese person who is more likely to STFU and find ways to murder that loud mouth instead of charging in guns blazing. Results matter in the end as I said before, because if China's economy beats the US economic in real terms as well as achieving technical independence in all high tech while the USA is still in deep civil war mode while the nation is burning down, well you can easily say that the USA with their PR is worth nothing but shit. Heck, given that Disney is making a great loss this year in China despite their apparent mastery in PR means their PR only seems to be useful in deluding themselves while ensuring that less and less money will be made.
So in the end, I would rather China lose the PR war if it means that China dominate the US in the future due to the USA neglecting everything else that truly matters which I can guarantee due to the current situation at long beach and it's cargo issues that will take years to solve with no real solutions being implemented, is definitely happening right now and is going to have grave consequences if the media cannot use it two sense and try to influence the people of the USA to SAVE CHRISTMAS then getting into a pissing match with the NO.1 supplier of all their goods that are on those ships. At this point, I believe that US media is good at one thing but so damn bad at everything else that I cannot understand how this cannot be seen. Their is a volcano going off that has the potential to cause a massive tsunami and yet 'it's CHYNA' that takes priority'.
 

escobar

Brigadier
Yeah, China cannot counter their PR simply because to do so means they have to discard what makes a Chinese person Chinese in order to become more western and more like a clown to win trolling points just to gain come gratification on the world stage but really, what is more dangerous, the USA and its media trying to cancel a person or China with there hypersonic missiles being ready to launch at any time. One of these two will kill in 30 mins (maybe a lot less if this is launched from a nuclear sub) while the other may kill via extreme rage bursting a blood vessel which I can guarantee is more likely to happen to a red neck then a Chinese person who is more likely to STFU and find ways to murder that loud mouth instead of charging in guns blazing. Results matter in the end as I said before, because if China's economy beats the US economic in real terms as well as achieving technical independence in all high tech while the USA is still in deep civil war mode while the nation is burning down, well you can easily say that the USA with their PR is worth nothing but shit. Heck, given that Disney is making a great loss this year in China despite their apparent mastery in PR means their PR only seems to be useful in deluding themselves while ensuring that less and less money will be made.
So in the end, I would rather China lose the PR war if it means that China dominate the US in the future due to the USA neglecting everything else that truly matters which I can guarantee due to the current situation at long beach and it's cargo issues that will take years to solve with no real solutions being implemented, is definitely happening right now and is going to have grave consequences if the media cannot use it two sense and try to influence the people of the USA to SAVE CHRISTMAS then getting into a pissing match with the NO.1 supplier of all their goods that are on those ships. At this point, I believe that US media is good at one thing but so damn bad at everything else that I cannot understand how this cannot be seen. Their is a volcano going off that has the potential to cause a massive tsunami and yet 'it's CHYNA' that takes priority'.
All of this useless bragging don't change this: CN is incompetent in the PR war agains US. There are multiples ongoing domain of competition between US and CN. You lose any domain you don't contest or poorly contest.
 

Petrolicious88

Senior Member
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Party officials are going to party schools to learn about party ideologies. Many are not very sophisticated when it comes to international affairs. Korean, Japan, Singapore also have very conservative Asian cultures when it comes to criticizing public officials, and yet they handle these kind of situations much better.
 

AF-1

Junior Member
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China doesnt need such things at all, why they need to heat up and feed western propaganda with situations like this?? Simply do an investigation, and if ex politician is guilty, sentence him, if tennis player faked an accusation, sentence her, thats very simple, like anywhere in the world. All they need to do is to handle simple situations in simple way...
 
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