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solarz

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An interesting proposal, this article suggests dividing the world into three spheres of influence and no one touch someone else's sphere. They are:

This means the US makes an retreat all across Asia and only keeping Japan, everything else in far east becomes China's sphere of influence.

This sort of talk seems to be surfacing a lot lately, which I imagine is why Taiwan and Japan are getting so nervous.

This kind of proposal just betrays the imperialist mindset of the West. China is not interested in dividing the world up, but of course, in the imperialists' dictionary, that just means China wants the whole pie.

Let's see: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance... Are we at stage 3 already?
 

ansy1968

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This kind of proposal just betrays the imperialist mindset of the West. China is not interested in dividing the world up, but of course, in the imperialists' dictionary, that just means China wants the whole pie.

Let's see: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance... Are we at stage 3 already?
@solarz Sir it does, and I'm surprise that it happen so quickly maybe before the end of the year it will be at stage 4 because of Stagnation happening in the US.
 

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An interesting proposal, this article suggests dividing the world into three spheres of influence and no one touch someone else's sphere. They are:

This means the US makes an retreat all across Asia and only keeping Japan, everything else in far east becomes China's sphere of influence.

This sort of talk seems to be surfacing a lot lately, which I imagine is why Taiwan and Japan are getting so nervous.
Mate, its a National Interest article which is at the top of the garbage news list.

It is impossible for the US to accept this. The moment it disengages from Asia, it's hegemony will evaporate and then immediately collapse (yes, the US have built their entire country on the basis that they remain the hegemon)
 

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An interesting proposal, this article suggests dividing the world into three spheres of influence and no one touch someone else's sphere. They are:

This means the US makes an retreat all across Asia and only keeping Japan, everything else in far east becomes China's sphere of influence.

This sort of talk seems to be surfacing a lot lately, which I imagine is why Taiwan and Japan are getting so nervous.
Even when being forced the compromise, the white anglo still believes he should hold dominion over Asian lives and Asian bodies.

What right do the anglo whites have over Japan ffs? Maybe the weaboos and their Waifu body pillows in the CIA demand japan be included but reality dictates otherwise.
 

Overbom

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Even when being forced the compromise, the white anglo still believes he should hold dominion over Asian lives and Asian bodies.

What right do the anglo whites have over Japan ffs? Maybe the weaboos and their Waifu body pillows in the CIA demand japan be included but reality dictates otherwise.


Russia is still accepting dollars in energy trade, and – for now – has no plans to ditch the US currency entirely, Putin noted, but “if the policy of the American authorities continues… then we will not have to do anything, the US will itself undermine confidence in the dollar.”
Putin sending a warning

The US is basically “sawing off the branch they’re sitting on,” Putin said, “by undermining the dollar’s dominance as the global reserve currency for the sake of short-term political gain at home, but harming their strategic economic interests” in the long term.
Putin is smart
 

windsclouds2030

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A terse piece from Interfax itself:

Russia views Taiwan as part of China, proceeds from that premise - Lavrov (12 Oct 2021)

NUR-SULTAN. Oct 12 (Interfax) - Russia's policy on the Taiwan situation proceeds from the island belonging to China, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

"Just like the overwhelming majority of other countries, Russia views Taiwan as part of the People's Republic of China. This is the premise we proceed from and will continue to proceed from in our policy," Lavrov told reporters in response to a question from Interfax whether Russia views the current situation around Taiwan as a threat to regional security.

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普京反对中国武统台独!!! 距他的外长表态支持就隔一夜,还给出了三个反对的理由;虽然在对抗美国这方面我们有着共同的目标,但是十分不能接受你的这个涉台观点 (2021/10/14)


Putin opposes China's military reunification and Taiwan independence!!! Overnight after his foreign minister expressed his support, Putin also gave three reasons for opposition; Although we have a common goal in confronting the United States, we can't accept Putin's Taiwan-related views

1. On the October 12th, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said, "you know, like most other countries in the world, Taiwan is a part of the People's Republic of China. Our policy has always taken this as the starting point."

On the October 13th, Putin said that according to his understanding, Chinese philosophy, including national construction and management, has nothing to do with the use of force. In his opinion, China does not need to use force. China is an economic power. In terms of purchasing power parity, China has surpassed the United States to become the world's largest economy. Through its growing economic potential, China can achieve its national goals. Putin stressed that he has not seen the threat of China using force to solve the Taiwan issue.

2. Evaluation

I. Turn it over first

Lavrov: Taiwan is a part of the People's Republic of China, and the mainland established New China in 1949. Therefore, this statement first clearly opposed the Republic of China, and then hinted that even if China use force against Taiwan, it would make a positive response;

As for what is a positive response, I guessed about Russia in the last issue. It may be directly sending military force to participate in the war, directly sending military force to contain, sending military force around to provide support and verbal support;

II. Putin's words should be understood in three aspects:

a. China will not use force, which is shown by his understanding of Chinese philosophy;
b. China can achieve its goal through economic growth
c. There is no threat that China must use force

d. In conclusion, China should not unify Taiwan by force now; This should be obvious;

III. Yesterday, the MFA spokesperson Zhao Lijian also thanked the Russian side for its Taiwan related statement. Today, I don't know how he may respond;

IV. Blogger's personal reaction

As far as Putin's words are concerned, Chinese philosophy is not without the use of force. Maybe we understand it differently. History tells us that national reunification can only be achieved by force;
If economic growth could achieve the goal of national reunification, North Korea would have surrendered to South Korea long ago; and your Russia has long surrendered to the United States;
There is no threat of military action yet. If it were you, you would have used force against Taiwan already. Crimea? Was Crimea returned in complete peace? Didn't Russian soldiers fight in secret, too?

V. Russia is a very important friend of China against the United States. At present, international relations particularly need friendly cooperation between the two countries, but we should be very clear:

a. China, the United States and Russia are three countries to some extent. Now the United States is relatively stronger, so China and Russia are close. One day if China is relatively stronger, the United States and Russia may be close too. When Russia is stronger, China and the United States may also get closer. The establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the United States is an example.
Therefore, the fundamental logic is that you don't want either side to be strong alone, and it's best to be balanced; Russia does not want the United States to be strong, and may not want China to surpass the United States, because first, it is a close neighbor, and second, it has a sense of historical guilt; The rapid settlement of Taiwan question is a sign of China's strength, and Russia is not willing to see it.

b. Solve your own problems by yourself, not by others. I believe our senior leaders must understand this very well;

c. More to say, with the development and progress of science and technology between China and the United States, Russia will be becoming more and more in having lesser sense of existence. If one day new energy technologies emerge, Russia may be finished again, but science and technology are destined to develop. His national development prospects are completely unable to compare with China and the United States, so they should be anxious.

d. We are friends. Thank you for your help to China in energy now, but if you can't give us the real help in terms of national sovereignty, please keep silent. We have our own judgment in this regard.

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没有永远的朋友,只有永远的利益,朋友也好,敌人也好,谁也不愿意看到中国统一强大!这就是现实。
 

Hendrik_2000

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Both Chinese and German are hard working no nonsense people. Somehow the common trait pave a way for win win relation. Prez Xi show warmth to Angela Merkel impending departure from German politic. And said she is always welcome and hope she continue to help advance the German-China relation. She was under tremendous pressure from US to join the "contain China movement" but she resists as best as she can show her gut

Chinese President Xi Jinping spoke highly of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's contribution to promoting China-Germany and China-Europe relations during her 16-year tenure. During a meeting via video link on Wednesday, the two leaders reviewed the development of China-German and China-EU relations in recent years and had a friendly in-depth exchange of views over relevant issues. Hailing Chancellor Merkel's contribution to promoting China-German and China-EU relations during her tenure,

President Xi said that "for making acquaintances, the most valuable thing is mutual understanding, and for people to have mutual understanding, the key lies in knowing what is on each other's mind." This saying is not only a good illustration of our in-depth exchanges over the years, but also reflects the important experience in maintaining the smooth and sound development of China-German relations over the past 16 years, President Xi added. As the Chinese people put a premium on friendship, said President Xi, China will not forget old friends and will always keep the door open for Chancellor Merkel, voicing the hope that Merkel will continue supporting the development of China-German and China-EU relations.

The Chinese president said they have had multiple in-depth exchanges of views on bilateral relations, major international and regional issues and state governance, among other topics, which have advanced bilateral ties and ensured collaboration between the two countries in responding to global challenges. In a spirit of mutually beneficial cooperation, China and Germany have achieved win-win results by giving play to the complementarity of the two countries' economies. The sound development of China and Germany have also contributed more to the global economy, President Xi said. This has demonstrated that countries can avoid the zero-sum game and achieve mutually beneficial results on a win-win basis, and this should be the main tone that the two sides should adhere to in bilateral ties,


 

LawLeadsToPeace

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普京反对中国武统台独!!! 距他的外长表态支持就隔一夜,还给出了三个反对的理由;虽然在对抗美国这方面我们有着共同的目标,但是十分不能接受你的这个涉台观点 (2021/10/14)


Putin opposes China's military reunification and Taiwan independence!!! Overnight after his foreign minister expressed his support, Putin also gave three reasons for opposition; Although we have a common goal in confronting the United States, we can't accept Putin's Taiwan-related views

1. On the October 12th, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said, "you know, like most other countries in the world, Taiwan is a part of the People's Republic of China. Our policy has always taken this as the starting point."

On the October 13th, Putin said that according to his understanding, Chinese philosophy, including national construction and management, has nothing to do with the use of force. In his opinion, China does not need to use force. China is an economic power. In terms of purchasing power parity, China has surpassed the United States to become the world's largest economy. Through its growing economic potential, China can achieve its national goals. Putin stressed that he has not seen the threat of China using force to solve the Taiwan issue.

2. Evaluation

I. Turn it over first

Lavrov: Taiwan is a part of the People's Republic of China, and the mainland established New China in 1949. Therefore, this statement first clearly opposed the Republic of China, and then hinted that even if China use force against Taiwan, it would make a positive response;

As for what is a positive response, I guessed about Russia in the last issue. It may be directly sending military force to participate in the war, directly sending military force to contain, sending military force around to provide support and verbal support;

II. Putin's words should be understood in three aspects:

a. China will not use force, which is shown by his understanding of Chinese philosophy;
b. China can achieve its goal through economic growth
c. There is no threat that China must use force

d. In conclusion, China should not unify Taiwan by force now; This should be obvious;

III. Yesterday, the MFA spokesperson Zhao Lijian also thanked the Russian side for its Taiwan related statement. Today, I don't know how he may respond;

IV. Blogger's personal reaction

As far as Putin's words are concerned, Chinese philosophy is not without the use of force. Maybe we understand it differently. History tells us that national reunification can only be achieved by force;
If economic growth could achieve the goal of national reunification, North Korea would have surrendered to South Korea long ago; and your Russia has long surrendered to the United States;
There is no threat of military action yet. If it were you, you would have used force against Taiwan already. Crimea? Was Crimea returned in complete peace? Didn't Russian soldiers fight in secret, too?

V. Russia is a very important friend of China against the United States. At present, international relations particularly need friendly cooperation between the two countries, but we should be very clear:

a. China, the United States and Russia are three countries to some extent. Now the United States is relatively stronger, so China and Russia are close. One day if China is relatively stronger, the United States and Russia may be close too. When Russia is stronger, China and the United States may also get closer. The establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the United States is an example.
Therefore, the fundamental logic is that you don't want either side to be strong alone, and it's best to be balanced; Russia does not want the United States to be strong, and may not want China to surpass the United States, because first, it is a close neighbor, and second, it has a sense of historical guilt; The rapid settlement of Taiwan question is a sign of China's strength, and Russia is not willing to see it.

b. Solve your own problems by yourself, not by others. I believe our senior leaders must understand this very well;

c. More to say, with the development and progress of science and technology between China and the United States, Russia will be becoming more and more in having lesser sense of existence. If one day new energy technologies emerge, Russia may be finished again, but science and technology are destined to develop. His national development prospects are completely unable to compare with China and the United States, so they should be anxious.

d. We are friends. Thank you for your help to China in energy now, but if you can't give us the real help in terms of national sovereignty, please keep silent. We have our own judgment in this regard.

* * * * *

没有永远的朋友,只有永远的利益,朋友也好,敌人也好,谁也不愿意看到中国统一强大!这就是现实。
I believe this perspective is incorrect. In my opinion, Putin is hinting to the Chinese to use their economic might to cripple Taiwan and its benefactors. If you are starving and have no means to get food, no matter how much pride you have, you ultimately have to beg. Using the military to reunify Taiwan should be the very last option after ALL of the others are used up.
 
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