I don't think you can deduce on what I wrote as an equivalent of me saying I tacitly believe the content of the article.
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My position is "do not believe anything media says unless they provided evidence that can be examined and cross checked by the readers, otherwise every such reporters can be a liar regardless who the reporter is and who is the subject in question". In another words, I don't trust tears or cry but only things that I can see and check.
I hold this position even if an article is written by Chinese media condemning Trump or Biden. I also hold this position even if an article is written by CNN about George Floyd vs. Derek Chauvin. I don't rush forward to condemn for support someone just because a paper says something.
It may sound to you that I am "blindly" defending Chinese employer, but that is simply because the subject happens to be related to Chinese as this forum is all about.
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
What did China get from the phase one trade deal? I have never heard anything about what does China get from it. It sounds like a bone China threw for Trump because at the time Trump's trade war against China was doing nothing after he claimed China would collapse day one. That's why his demands were divided into phases so he can fake a victory because Trump's proclamation that the US didn't need China while China needed the US was not so apocalyptic for China as he believed. Was it just a ransom demand to prevent further trade action by the US? If that was the case, Trump did act further so he broke the deal and it should be considered null and void.
IMO, people don't demonstrate that amount of emotional outburst if they are not believing in most part of it. Maybe that is just me.
solarz
Brigadier
How do you know it's even real? Why do Chinese fishermen need to go to Kenya in order to fish in Indonesian waters?
All china got back from the deal was more companies threatened being listed on the entity list like Xiaomi and more tariffs and sanctions.
China should just force the US to remove Huawei from the entity list.
They should, because I really want one of those Huawei folding phones.
The whole thing seemed like a charade from the beginning.
President Trump said that China will pay the tariff, not Americans (importers or consumers who are passed the costs of the tax). Trump probably did not graduate, or bought his degree, if he has one. No one makes such fundamental mistakes. I thought he was just joking, and trying to look tough to the American people because President Trump thought the American people were stupid. The Chinese, and anyone who passed those courses, got a degree, this was all stupid.
But ... what a show! Better than the circus!
I concluded Trump actually believed that China paid the tariff. When the trade negotiations almost fell apart, Trump slapped more tariffs onto Chinese goods as punishment. The Chinese most difficult time, was to keep a straight face, feign outrage.
So the Biden people want to continue this same charade.
That seems fine, but China needs not to be a part of it. China's involvement in the charade is not necessary anymore.
China is happy with the tariffs it placed onto American goods, because that would foster import substitution, which is required given the arbitrary bans placed on American exporters.
CCP got something out of it, they got their policy implemented of buying Chinese instead of buy American in the targeted sectors affected by the Chinese tariffs.
I do not have proof, but this is too logical.
Here is an old article.
It was a charade then, it is still a charade now.
fortune.com/2019/10/08/trump-china-tariffs-trade-war-us-economy-impact/
This is what happened in the trade war as far as I can remember it.
Suppose the American tariff was 15% on Chinese goods.
What the Chinese did, was the manufacturer lower prices maybe 5%, and the central bank PBoC lower the trading band for the RMB 5%.
That means all other things being equal, then a competitor can capture that market share because they would have a 5% edge on Chinese goods.
However, the real world consideration is that for a company to bring out the money for plant and equipment and labour, what if the RMB rate goes down again? That would wipe out these investments.
China did that, no real competitors to Chinese goods appeared, and China goods continued to flow into America, setting records. The trade war was effectively over in about 6 to 9 months after the tariff war started.
It is what President Trump taught us reactionaries. It is all fake news!
Opps, look at the time, Faux News is almost on, got to go ...
Suppose the American tariff was 15% on Chinese goods.
What the Chinese did, was the manufacturer lower prices maybe 5%, and the central bank PBoC lower the trading band for the RMB 5%.
That means all other things being equal, then a competitor can capture that market share because they would have a 5% edge on Chinese goods.
However, the real world consideration is that for a company to bring out the money for plant and equipment and labour, what if the RMB rate goes down again? That would wipe out these investments.
China did that, no real competitors to Chinese goods appeared, and China goods continued to flow into America, setting records. The trade war was effectively over in about 6 to 9 months after the tariff war started.
It is what President Trump taught us reactionaries. It is all fake news!
Opps, look at the time, Faux News is almost on, got to go ...
For me, just eliminating the white/western/US worshipping mentality was worth having the entire Trade war.
These little bugs who were turning right and left talking about how the US was a friend of China were the greatest threat that China was facing. With the Trade War and Trump they were all kicked out and now with covid, they are a near-extinct species.