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ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
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US allies are experiencing back-stabbing frequently as we are witnessing but they are still there. Isn't funny? How many allies US has lost because of back-stabbing? No need for the alliance to be gold, but to be just good to counter every adversary; and for that the alliance work very well. If it was CN which have those "alliance with back-stabbing" constraining US, you will say "alliance" are not so bad lol
You think that because those alliances haven't been tested. Japan and South Korea haven't had to deal with an overwhelmingly powerful China in the modern era, so an alliance with the US has little downside. But China only grows more powerful and wealthy by the day, and soon they and other countries in the region will face a stark choice: Continue in a relationship with an increasingly weak US and face the enormous risk of being on the losing side of a conflict, or ditch the US and switch to the winning side. That's when we'll see the real backstabbing that comes with alliances - when the US loses its predominance.
 

9dashline

Captain
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This case is likely gonna take another 5-10 years. I think the US maybe using the fact that she will be stuck in the us / canada to try to get her to plea to something for path 1. Unless a person was bleeding-anti-china out of their eyes, the case seems very wrong for Meng. Even in the unlikelyhood of a conviction and a very short jail term( the judge isn't likely gonna give much considering a person has been under house arrest for potentially a decade), China will win on the propaganda front and the us has more to lose in the view of it's impartial justice system.
I hate to say this but it might be in the long term interest of both Huawei and China that Meng gets "sacrificed"...

CIA targeted Mao's son for extermination back in the Korean war but in the end got Deng's "bid your time", "whatever cat" stuff... which in retrospect was a tactical win but strategic mistake on the part of the US to strike Mao's son

Likewise, it is also true that Meng is just a pawn in the grand scheme of the geopolitical chess/Go board...

China cannot really do a seals team six extraction of her, (and not because its technically impossible but if China did this her career would be over anyway and Huawei reputation even more down the tubes if that was still possible) but China can easily send someone to get to Meng to solve the problem and still maintain plausible deniability or even turn it around and blame it on CIA/Canada for assassinating her etc (not unlike how the US did with COVID by blaming its CIA biovirus on Chinese Wuhan leak etc etc etc)

Two can play this game.
 

escobar

Brigadier
You think that because those alliances haven't been tested. Japan and South Korea haven't had to deal with an overwhelmingly powerful China in the modern era, so an alliance with the US has little downside.
So until you tested to see what could happen, the alliance are doing his job in peace time by constraining PLA. That is what matter now
But China only grows more powerful and wealthy by the day, and soon they and other countries in the region will face a stark choice: Continue in a relationship with an increasingly weak US and face the enormous risk of being on the losing side of a conflict, or ditch the US and switch to the winning side. That's when we'll see the real backstabbing that comes with alliances - when the US loses its predominance.
Again, Until that day come the alliance are doing this job. "strategic patience" is all you got
 
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ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
Registered Member
So until you tested to see what could happen, the alliance are doing his job in peace time by constraining PLA. That is what matter now
How is the PLA constrained? It's building up its military strength at a rapid pace and without any limit; you spend enough time on this forum to know that. China is even openly expanding its nuclear deterrent and the only response the US could come up with was putting some (wrong) Chinese flags on an empty table. How laughable.

Quite frankly, the only reason there's peace is because peace suits China's interest. It can build up its military unimpeded, so why start a risky war today when your enemy's going to be a pushover tomorrow.
Again, Until that day come the alliance are doing this job.
Yeah, until that day. I don't know what you do for a living, but one field I don't think you're suited for (no offense) is marketing bulletproof vests. I imagine your sales pitch to potential customers would be, "This vest is great! It works every day until the day you get shot."
"strategic patience" is what you got
Strategic patience is all China needs because it's the winning move.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
lol are you obtuse or what? An almost failed country is what you think is a Tier 1, 2 or 3 ally?
Ok good, US lost Afghanistan. How much that change PLA calculus in comparison to losing JP?

I see I hit a raw nerve. You got caught out with your first statement. And now you move the goal post. Figures coming from you. Instead of addressing the issues, you attacked the person instead. Sounds like you.
 
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