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9dashline

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Once you admit guilt, you are guilty forever. Then Huawei is guilty forever.

The bigger fish has always been Huawei. Meng is just caught in the geopolitics of it.
US Federal prosecutors have like a 99% conviction rate, and something like 95% is plea bargains that never go to jury or judge trial ... a good chunk of that is forced and/or false confessions...

Of the convictions eventually overturned based on dna evidence by help of Innocence Project, at least 25% was based on false confessions under pressure
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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Once you admit guilt, you are guilty forever. Then Huawei is guilty forever.

The bigger fish has always been Huawei. Meng is just caught in the geopolitics of it.
@Petrolicious88 bro to be a martyr or a heroine only manifest rarely. This is a perfect opportunity for Meng to seize the moment as the planet is perfectly align for her. 21st century Chinese Joan of ARC. The symbolism is there for her to sacrifice herself to rally the nation and certainly will make her father proud.
 

Fedupwithlies

Junior Member
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I hate to say this but it might be in the long term interest of both Huawei and China that Meng gets "sacrificed"...

CIA targeted Mao's son for extermination back in the Korean war but in the end got Deng's "bid your time", "whatever cat" stuff... which in retrospect was a tactical win but strategic mistake on the part of the US to strike Mao's son

Likewise, it is also true that Meng is just a pawn in the grand scheme of the geopolitical chess/Go board...

China cannot really do a seals team six extraction of her, (and not because its technically impossible but if China did this her career would be over anyway and Huawei reputation even more down the tubes if that was still possible) but China can easily send someone to get to Meng to solve the problem and still maintain plausible deniability or even turn it around and blame it on CIA/Canada for assassinating her etc (not unlike how the US did with COVID by blaming its CIA biovirus on Chinese Wuhan leak etc etc etc)

Two can play this game.
No.

What's the next step after blaming the US or Canada for assassinating her? What's the US doing to China other than blaming China for the Wuhan leak?

If you lose Meng Wenzhou you lose a very valuable asset for what? Making the US feel bad?

This case is why China needs to be a superpower. If China cannot defend her citizens then there's no point in developing.

Its entirely and 100% these fights that need to be fought, not to let Meng get "sacrificed". There's no point in the "sacrifice", the US nor Canada will feel any consequence if Meng dies.
 

ansy1968

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Malaysia is getting into this as well.
@Temstar bro its an American conundrum with AUKUS instead reinforcing its China pivot Its European allies feel exposed and this French outburst is just an example as others like Ukraine , Lithuania ,Poland and even Germany may share the same feeling of betrayal after following the American Diktat that is against their owned interest.

The beauty of China and Russia rapprochement plus the Iranian, it forces the US to overreach instead of using the Alliances system it had become a burden, the weight it carry is like that of Prometheus/Atlas carry the weight of the world while the Russian eagle eat its liver and the Chinese panda annoyingly tickle him with a bamboo leaf.
 
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horse

Colonel
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@Temstar bro its an American conundrum with AUKUS instead reinforcing its China pivot Its European allies feel exposed and this French outburst is just an example as others like Ukraine , Lithuania ,Poland and even Germany may share the same feeling of betrayal after following the American Diktat that is against their owned interest.

The beauty of China and Russia rapprochement plus the Iranian, it forces the US to overreach instead of using the Alliances system it had become a burden, the weight it carry is like that of Prometheus/Atlas carry the weight of the world while the Russian eagle eat its liver and the Chinese panda annoyingly tickle him with a bamboo leaf.

Yeah brother ...

The Americans are stupid beyond belief, the American political class is just a bunch of shits.

Did America lose the Vietnam War? The certainly lost the hearts and minds.

What happened in Afghanistan just three weeks ago? The Americans lost the war because they lost the hearts and minds.

We saw it live right in front of us on the internet. The Americans have no use for history. None whatsoever.

What did just happen? The American lead containment effort against China (which has been pretty weak so far) now is either dying or completely dead.

The Americans stabbed the French in the back.

But the Americans still believe the French are still on their side, against China.

This is due to the fact that the Americans only stabbed the French in the back, and they did NOT stab the French in their hearts or stab them in their minds.

They only stabbed them in the back.

Therefore, the French are still on America's side when it comes to containing China.

The Americans have no use for history. No doubt about it.

:oops: :p
 
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