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Andy1974

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I thought we would be able to gauge how well the call went between Xi and Biden by seeing how long it took for the next transit to occur. Judge for yourself..

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Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Saturday that the US warship's transit through the Taiwan Straits is about sending a provocative message, and to encourage Taiwan secessionism, but the US military is not ready for a war with the PLA.

So the PLA's action in the region is not just targeting any specific move made by the US, because the US' intention is clear, and what the PLA is doing is about preparing for the worst case scenario - an all-out military intervention made by US and its allies, and only by doing so, the PLA will be able to defeat all kinds of enemies, especially the foreign interventionist forces, when China launches an operation to reunify Taiwan with the mainland, Song said.
 

AssassinsMace

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Frankly I think this AUSKUS thing is all a show so they look tough. It'll take 25 years to complete...? It really doesn't change anything that wasn't happening before. China's reactions are by-the-numbers almost ritualistic. I'm already reading headlines that say China is furious. Every reaction by China to something that's aimed against it is "furious". I don't know if that's the West interpretation or China actually says it. Even "furious" sounds like a typical canned and measured response by China because it ends up more words than action. Maybe they don't know this in China where they think acting furious means they mean business so the other side has to correct their actions, but in the US they enjoy China acting furious because that means they know how to push China's buttons meaning they're doing something against China's will and that's power over China. What China thinks will make the West stop actually makes the US keep doing it. If they're no consequences, why would they stop?
 

Andy1974

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This is a very good article, I strongly suggest you to read it and spread as well:

There are POLITICAL-ECONOMIC AGENDAS driving the current PANDEMIC, not public health concerns; for one intro see this:

Discussion on propaganda and the political-economic drivers underlying the pandemic event including Prof. Fabio Vighi's recent paper:

A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY: SYSTEMIC COLLAPSE AND PANDEMIC SIMULATION

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The above piece explains the financial stress in 2019 as mentioned slightly by the American economist, Martin Armstrong here:
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Also mentioned by this one indirectly, authored by Matthew Piepenburg
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I don’t want to sound like a loony, but if this is true then what they really should do is sell the vaccine AND the cure, that way EVERYBODY pays for it.

Oh look…

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emblem21

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You know. I didn’t expect this incident to mean too much given how the USA allies normally let things like this toll of their back like a good lapdog would normally take it. Hmmm I guess I have underestimated the sheer implications of what is eventually going to lead to the Anglo saxons eventually turning not only the world against them but eventually providing an incentive to want to actually fight them. Australia would better hope that the USA remains a super power because if they don’t, well I guess on the bright side, we can finally get to see the leadership in australia not only collective shit themselves but also having to resort to begging not to get slaughter by the combined might of south East Asia since really, I believe that they have and always will consider australia to be a nation that sticks out like a sickened thumb in need of amputating and this may give them the long awaited time to finally put them back into a dog kennel where either they recover like a normal country made to finally respect their neighbours ( instead of being an annoying lapdog) or get euthanized and be rid of a annoying problem that has plagued the region for far too long
 

horse

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That means baseball is no longer "America's greatest past time game" when all the products are made in China.

During the pandemic in China in 2020, there were no more hockey stick production.

The National Hockey League, the NHL, of North America almost ran out of hockey sticks because China closed their factories.

Fortunately, the Chinese government got the pandemic under control and production of hockey sticks restarted.

Canadians rejoiced as they went back to their favourite sport, high-sticking, slashing, hacking and whacking, and the spearing, at the good old hockey game.
 

Overbom

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Frankly I think this AUSKUS thing is all a show so they look tough. It'll take 25 years to complete...? It really doesn't change anything that wasn't happening before. China's reactions are by-the-numbers almost ritualistic. I'm already reading headlines that say China is furious. Every reaction by China to something that's aimed against it is "furious". I don't know if that's the West interpretation or China actually says it. Even "furious" sounds like a typical canned and measured response by China because it ends up more words than action. Maybe they don't know this in China where they think acting furious means they mean business so the other side has to correct their actions, but in the US they enjoy China acting furious because that means they know how to push China's buttons meaning they're doing something against China's will and that's power over China. What China thinks will make the West stop actually makes the US keep doing it. If they're no consequences, why would they stop?
You are right. We here in the forum might be making noises because we finally have some content (lol), but China's response is pretty mild

The "alliance" is the UK making money, US stealing France's business for their MIC and Australia getting nuclear sub tech which will have its first submarines in 2 decades.

If by 2040, China cannot cope with some subs from Australia then it should pack up and go home. IMO I expect that by 2040, China would be utterly dominating in the naval domain
 

daifo

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The US has tried this trick at the end of Trump's time in office. China rejected it. I don't see why China would pick it up this time.

There are two paths:
  1. As US wish, Meng admit guilt and released without China's official involvement.
    • US win the "legal" and diplomatic ground.
    • China loose the diplomatic ground.
    • Canada further loose the Chinese favor.
    • The two Canadians serve their full terms in Chinese prison because China is officially out of the loop.
  2. As China wish, Meng is released by Canada without admitting anything.
    • China win the legal and diplomatic ground.
    • Canada restore China's favor by essentially breaking away from US' orbit.
    • Canada enters an uncharted water with US being troublesome.
    • U.S. loose legal and diplomatic ground, and credibility of cohesion to the rest of world.
    • The two Canadians released after sentencing.
So far, China's official stand is staying out of any negotiation with US and refusing the connection of the two Canadians with Meng's case. This means that China is only going to talk to Canada alone. Only this way can Canada expect an exchange.

If Meng take the bait (path 1), she will be socially dead in China, and forget about any career in Huawei. China is not going to pay national asset (diplomatic and prestige) for Meng to surrender to the US. What the US is doing is to exploit the personal weakness to get rid of a deadlock of useless negative asset.

This case is likely gonna take another 5-10 years. I think the US maybe using the fact that she will be stuck in the us / canada to try to get her to plea to something for path 1. Unless a person was bleeding-anti-china out of their eyes, the case seems very wrong for Meng. Even in the unlikelyhood of a conviction and a very short jail term( the judge isn't likely gonna give much considering a person has been under house arrest for potentially a decade), China will win on the propaganda front and the us has more to lose in the view of it's impartial justice system.
 

supersnoop

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I think there is one thing pretty telling about this
AUSKUS alliance…

3 old white guys announcing to the world how they will guarantee security in the Indo-Pacific. One of these countries doesn’t even have a genuine pacific border…


Yet we are supposed to genuinely believe that the system these people are upholding will genuinely try to eliminate systemic racism?
 
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