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Phead128

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obj 705A said:
There isnt one golden solution. You have to do everything to lift the Chinese football team from the terrible state it's in.

Chinese players need to be forced to play in a competitive environment.

The European leagues dont care about your skin colour or religion. They only care about your perfomance, they buy the best players they can get. And since they and latin American have been the first to dominate this sport they have built a self sustaining system that attracts foreign talent and forces local players to perform better to remain relevant.

I know people here usually criticize diversity. But football is different. You cannot base the choice of your players on their ethnicity (ie disqualify people who aren't ethnic Chinese) if a subsaharan player is better than a Chinese, then chose him rather than the ethnic Chinese to play in the Chinese leagues.

Force the local Chinese player to be competitive or else they lose their jobs and their livelihood.

Because so far the Chinese seem to reward rather than punish (financialy) their players for their shit perfomance.

Why is the national team not disbanded yet? They clearly can't play football even if their life depended on it, so fire them, they can go look for some other job.

People here (me included) always bring up the idea that Chinese players need to go play in European leagues when talking about how to fix the Chinese men's football team. And while that is a good idea. The reality is that it is not up to China to do that, it is up to the major European leagues to start buying Chinese players.

In any case forget about Europe for a second. most African and Arab teams are far better than the Chinese team. If the Chinese team could one day be at the level of the Jordanian team then that would an enough of an accomplishment to convince the state to finally host the world cup.

In the qualifiers for the world cup. The Chinese team ranked even below Palestine! Just think about that for a moment.

You know what that means? Forget about the Euro leagues. If you could have Chinese players playing in African and Arab leagues then that would be a boost to the perfomance of the Chinese players.

So in short (let's say the semi TLDR):

Chinese leagues need to start buying foreign players en mass to force them to compete with each other rather than retire and play like shit against amature local chinese players. This would also force the few Chinese players that remain to up their game.

Buying foreigners in small token numbers is what harms the game because then these foreigners do little effort knowing there isnt local competition.

if you can't get good players from Latin America and Europe then buy them from Africa.

If the end result is just 30 Chinese players out of hundreds playing in the Chinese super league remain then so be it.

Currently only around 20% of players in the super league are foreigners, that is a terrible percentage, looking at the horrible perfomance of Chinese players.. they don't deserve more than 10% at most. There are about 500 players in the super league.

I'm sure you could easily find 300 foreigners who are better than 300 of these local players. The super league should be.. 400 foreigners with the best 100 Chinese players to force them to up their game and at the same time prevent these foreigners from essentially playing like a retired footballer.
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Historically both Japan and South Korea have utilized strict foreign-player quotas to protect domestic talent and ensure young local players have ample playing time to develop. This has evolved as both Japan and Korea has significant improved much better (e.g. routinely qualifying for World Cup) so they relaxed these foreign-quota restrictions to promote domestic competitive play, but they only relaxed after they gotten better, not when they still sucked. They encouraged sending local players to European leagues to absorb knowledge and return as coaches and national team players.

Japan and Korea has an systemic grass roots youth development pipeline that sees large pool of kids commit to football throughout their formative prime years. Historically Chinese kids drop their interest in football too early during their formative years, but China has been adopting the Japan/Korea playbook....but developing grass roots youth talent pool organically takes at least 10-15 years to see results as next generation goes through this development pipeline.
 
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Ringsword

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Randomuser said:
So despite asia being the largest continent in the world and representing 4.7 billion people, only Japan and Australia made it to the next round.

Everyone else either didn't make it past round 1 or didn't even qualify.


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Is it better too be good at niche fields and suck at football. Or be above average at football and good no where else.
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Or ,China can rewrite the entire script-like we did in the Olympics-be good at both/almost any/all fields-no mindless chest-thumping,bragging/boasting like some fool but study,assess,science,disciplne,hard work-it can be done.China herself has proven it.
 
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Shaolian

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Football is just one sport. And it's more appropriate to categorize it as "sports entertainment", this is primarily an Anglo dominated business, where they make the most profit and also get to set the rules.

China currently is more interested in researching and improving actual core human athletic attributes. These improvements are not subject to arbitrary western sabotage, as the science and knowledge stays with China, and they can be applied into whatever other "sports entertaiment" when needed.

The fact that China gets to demonstrate its athletic progress in the Olympics is also a nice bonus.
 
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pmc

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AssassinsMace said:

Just tells you how Europeans buy their own bull. Now they're suspicious of Palantir...? No wonder they get angry stamping their little feet when China just doesn't buy into their own nonsense and blindly do what they want. They think everyone is suppose to trust them no questions asked... like how they trusted the US and Palantir handing them all the sensitive data.
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Another Palantir video. When Europeans had Empires they needed these people but now Europe is in decline they are putting out these videos. she called Karp a Yoga instructor.


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GulfLander

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Chevalier said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2071039148484378891

If true, what’s the point of a super secret powerful AI is China can clone a super secret powerful AI and make it open source and publicly available?
US anglosphere western world order keeps trying to function as a priestly oligarchy with the priests having sole access to AI (and air conditioning).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2070796529179267384

atlanticist elites whining over why china wont take the bait and let them divide and rule
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thw writer korean?
 
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