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Everyone keeps saying how hard it is to find 11 players. Yet most of the world can't field one person to even get close to Usain Bolt from Jamaica which has less than 3 million people. Most of the world for 8 years couldn't find 4 people to beat the Jamaicans in Olympic Relays either. Its far easier to luck out and get a genius than to get a system producing 11 players who work together well. So imagine how tough it is to get basically 11 semi geniuses.

The approach is different completely. You basically need an industrial grade system for football since 11 players is already very high for a sport. And in this aspect China still has not gotten it right after all this time. They say players don't go overseas to play. Well maybe its because they weren't even good enough to go overseas. I mean look at the player quality. Low stamina, poor fundamentals, lack of tactical awareness etc. These are basic things you should have at pro level and yet they dont have. So clearly that means we have a garbage in garbage out problem. The quality of players entering is just not good enough and somewhere along the line, the selection process went all wrong. This is just basics btw. We are not even talking about how they play as a group and what tactics they use in real time.

China already tried getting foreigners and they mostly sucked. There's a reason they are playing in China is because their own countries don't want them.

They say Japan has gotten quite good now because even though they have no real stars, they have a solid system that drills fundamentals well so their players all know the ABCs of playing as a team. In contrast Korea which is supposed to be better is said to focus only on a few star players and not the whole team. I guess if Japan gets further than Korea this time, we will see there is truth to this. Modern football is less about individual stars and more about a proper system. Thats why there's more focus on the managers now.

Anyway even if China did qualify for the next world cup, they'll just say why can't they get out of the group stages etc. Its just something to diss China on since they are running out of stuff in others areas. Its nice to be good at football but frankly with the way the world is heading, there are more pressing matters at hand. Argentina is one of the teams favored to win. Lets say they win again this time, will that save their country?
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Atleast we have ping-pong and badminton that we can dominate in.
 
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Why the World Cup Keeps Eluding China

This week, as the FIFA World Cup heats up in North America, we explore the state of Chinese soccer and why—despite repeated attempts at reform—it hasn’t found success on the global stage.

Chinese fans are once again lamenting the absence of their national team from the World Cup. The disappointment is particularly acute because this year’s tournament expanded from 32 to 48 teams, including a record nine from the Asian Football Confederation, in which the Chinese team competes.

China has reached the World Cup only once, in 2002, when it was eliminated from the group stage without scoring a goal. Though Chinese fans are used to seeing regional rivals Japan and South Korea easily qualify for the tournament, losing out to newcomers such as Jordan and Uzbekistan is harder to swallow.

What I find interesting is not simply the existence of these problems but China’s inability to solve them. Soccer is a personal priority of Chinese President Xi Jinping, a longtime fan of the sport. In 2011, before becoming president, Xi expressed three wishes for Chinese soccer: to qualify for the World Cup, host the World Cup, and win the World Cup.

Fifteen years later, China is no closer to those goals, despite billions of dollars in investment; repeated anti-corruption campaigns; and a massive, state-backed push to turn China into a “first-class soccer superpower” by 2050.

Part of the problem is that the Chinese domestic league is large and lucrative enough to keep talented players from seeking opportunities abroad, but it is so rife with incompetence and corruption that this talent often goes to waste.

Not a single player on the current Chinese national team plays for a foreign club; by contrast, only eight members of the U.S. squad play for Major League Soccer, the relatively weak U.S. league with several Canadian teams. Chinese players often go abroad during their youth careers but rarely stay overseas at the senior level.

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The state of football in China is just puzzling. I mean billions of dollars including taxpayer money has been spent on it. The president himself says China has three goals to achieve in football which is unusual for China since the Chinese tend to just do stuff and not declare it beforehand which just tells you how enthusiastic the state was about the sport.

And still the Chinese football team is just in this terrible state.

1.4 billion people, billions of dollars spent, the government itself stated it's interest in the sport and in the end this national team still couldn't find 11 half decent players to qualify for the world cup. Meanwhile You have midget states that no one ever heard of like Curaçao with a population of 150k people who did manage to qualify.

What's even the use of this national team? Just to waste money? If it wont bring results it should be disbanded. Chinese culture is usually super competitive thus bringing you good results. Yet this doesnt seem to be the case for football.

If China can't find 11 half decent players then they should do what Arab countries are doing. 8 arab teams qualified for the world cup. For Iraq 16 out of 26 players are born outside Iraq. For Morocco 19 out of 26 players are born outside Morocco, actually in their match against Brazil which was a 1-1 draw, all 11 active players were born, raised and played outside Morocco.

China should go to Europe, Africa, Latin America, Japan, South Korea, search for decent players of Chinese decent, doesnt even have to be 100% Chinese blood, they could be 50% or 25% Chinese decent, grant them citizenship and have them play for the Chinese national team.
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In my opinion, the best way to make Chinese players more competitive is to try to send young talents to play in the European leagues. This is much harder than it sounds but it had to be done. Many of the international level Japanese, South Korean, and even Uzbek players are playing in Europe. In the Bundesliga of Germany, there are a good number of Japanese and South Korean players playing there.

Importing foreign talents is only a short term fix. The long term fix is to nurture domestic talents. It is a slow and painful process, but it has to be done to make Chinese football truly competitive. Good players breeds confidence and more talents.
 
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Animal rights in authoritarian China >>>>>> human rights in liberal democratic Europe.
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Xiaohongshu in a nutshell lol.

It was basically a feminist/feminazi platform with pro western views until the tiktok refugees brought reality.

Its still somewhat of a feminist platform with its female centric content and female accounts with descriptions saying that all male followers will be blocked.
 
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And yet US brands operate freely in China. This is the level of timidity China has shown again and again. They should ban all US branded cars from Chinese market.
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China doesn't play symmetrical, if only because American actions tend to be self defeating, I mean American cars are effectively getting kicked out of China anyway in part because they don't have to compete at home, and the purpose of letting Tesla operate is because, and if you followed this back in 2019, ONLY because Tesla has a global export quota AND has to uses Chinese batteries for those export, i.e. Tesla is a tool for China to destroy any western attempt to produce batteries or cars at home.

But if you want to see China ban something, just look at Nvidia chips, but only after US unbanned their export. Sometimes the two sides are pullin in the same direction, one side just doesn't know it.
 
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Make my words — this is literally gonna end up killing people. I recall that a few years ago people in London literally died during a heatwave or around 85 degrees Fahrenheit. This is gonna be so much worse and they do stupid shit like banning air conditioning…
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What do you mean gonna, average heatwave excess death in Europe in previous years is around 60k, and this was the worst so we're probably looking at 100k dead.
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