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Randomuser

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I will answer questions from both of you at the same time.

Firstly, when ranking the historical damages and grievances imposed on China by Russia and other Western countries, I personally place Russia in first place, even ahead of Japan. Objectively speaking, the death toll of Chinese people caused by Russia in history is almost on par with that inflicted by Japan. Furthermore, the loss of territory is an everlasting national humiliation. Russia has territorial conflicts with almost all its neighboring countries, yet it never realizes these disputes will leave eternal hatred. Some may say this is their national character, but it does not stop me from disliking this country.

Many Western nations hope China can let go of past hatred. Most of the resentment towards Western countries comes from cultural colonization and economic exploitation. With China’s rise, these past grievances can gradually be resolved. However, the pain of lost territory can never be forgiven.

Next, I will talk about the classic allusion Seven Captures of Meng Huo from the Three Kingdoms period. Russia is never Meng Huo. It cannot be conquered, nor will it ever yield. Every country that has territorial disputes with China has direct or indirect ties with Russia. To outsiders, this may seem remarkable, but as Chinese people, it is truly hard for us to accept.

China has always shown sincere respect to Russia. There are numerous monuments commemorating Soviet heroes across Northeast China, carved with the names and hometowns of Soviet soldiers who sacrificed their lives fighting against fascism. This is China’s sincere gratitude for their aid in the anti-fascist war, yet this kindness cannot cover up historical facts.

Russia is far more than just holding China back. It harbors hidden schemes. It refuses to accept and recognize that China has surpassed it in strength, and constantly creates troubles and obstacles for China. Honestly, I cannot endure such conduct. This country bears bloody historical debts to China, yet it still engages in these petty and calculating moves while receiving help and support from China. I can never develop affection for such a country. I understand the overall national strategic decisions, but this situation is exactly the story of the farmer and the snake. We must always be on guard against it. I firmly believe China’s senior leaders have long seen through all these hidden intentions, since everything is obvious and transparent. China’s top authorities have released the greatest goodwill. Otherwise, these issues would have triggered heated arguments and fierce discussions on domestic online platforms long ago
Ok you've made your opinion heard on past grievances with Russia although I am skeptical on the framing of quite a few things. I'm pretty sure Chinese leadership is not stupid to blindly trust Russia and has done proper risk assessment. Lets just leave it at that because again without beating the present there is no future to talk about.
 
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zhaovicher

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Ok you've made your opinion heard on past grievances with Russia although I am skeptical on the framing of quite a few things. I'm pretty sure Chinese leadership is not stupid to blindly trust Russia and has done proper risk assessment. Lets just leave it at that because again without beating the present there is no future to talk about.
Ok you've made your opinion heard on past grievances with Russia although I am skeptical on the framing of quite a few things. I'm pretty sure Chinese leadership is not stupid to blindly trust Russia and has done proper risk assessment. Lets just leave it at that because again without beating the present there is no future to talk about.
As your wish,dude.
 

Valentine

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Even though they were no different than then West because they raped and massacred Chinese in Tianjin along with others including Japanese aswell as ironically providing the CCP 0 support while supporting the KMT even though they want a two state solution like in Korea and Germany. Speaking of which what the 8 Nations did in Tianjin should be seen as the precursor of the Nanjing Massacre because it involved the same crimes against Chinese civilians just that the perpetrators got away with it.

I also forgot they're the reason why this whole East Turkestan exist and why Mongolians are so obsessed with Inner Mongolia.
Now we need to get this message across to the Chinese themselves, because I'm appalled by the scale of Chinese servility toward any Europeans, especially Slavs. I've lived and worked in China for a long time, and the Chinese's fawning over Europeans is simply horrifying and disgusting. A white person walks into a store, gets a discount or a free service, gets into university, gets easier exams, grants, and better dorm conditions than the Chinese. A white person walks down the street, everyone lines up for a photo, gives in to them, gives them preferential treatment, and elevates them in every way. This instills in visiting Russians (I speak from experience in the Russian community) a sense of superiority over the Chinese; they openly mock them online, sling mud at them, and consider them inferior. This will happen until the Chinese gain self-awareness and at least a modicum of self-respect, and finally stop thinking in a colonial style, elevating any person who comes from outside.
 

zhaovicher

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Now we need to get this message across to the Chinese themselves, because I'm appalled by the scale of Chinese servility toward any Europeans, especially Slavs. I've lived and worked in China for a long time, and the Chinese's fawning over Europeans is simply horrifying and disgusting. A white person walks into a store, gets a discount or a free service, gets into university, gets easier exams, grants, and better dorm conditions than the Chinese. A white person walks down the street, everyone lines up for a photo, gives in to them, gives them preferential treatment, and elevates them in every way. This instills in visiting Russians (I speak from experience in the Russian community) a sense of superiority over the Chinese; they openly mock them online, sling mud at them, and consider them inferior. This will happen until the Chinese gain self-awareness and at least a modicum of self-respect, and finally stop thinking in a colonial style, elevating any person who comes from outside.
From my humble understanding, the issues you mentioned are still within the range we can endure. To a certain extent, this is the country strategically shaping its external image. There is an old Chinese saying, endure hardships and bide one’s time.
Certain strengths cannot be hidden, among which military strength is exactly the core topic discussed on this forum. Since our real strength cannot be concealed, we have to conceal our edge in soft power. Keeping a low profile and appearing amiable is a reluctant move, yet it works effectively.

However, there are some foolish people who cannot comprehend our goodwill and regard our restraint as cowardice. Such people will always exist and cannot be avoided. What you expect will never happen before we achieve full victory.

As for privilege, it falls into two categories. The first took shape in specific historical periods, stemming from slack governance. Universities were required to meet quotas for international student ratios. Back when our national strength was insufficient to attract talents naturally, extreme measures were adopted to secure foreign student enrollment. This situation has now been curbed and is no longer ongoing.

The second is the exchange of power and interests. Many privileged individuals are offspring of influential figures with shared interests. This is an inevitable privileged phenomenon. Arrogant and domineering elites exist both at home and abroad, so we ought to treat this matter rationally.

When it comes to Russia, its current educational standard is nowhere close to that of the Soviet era. Many people are uneducated and ignorant. They are narrow-minded, blindly believe force conquers all, and constantly overestimate themselves, daring to take on formidable forces recklessly. They always pick on humble Chinese people, which is utterly unforgivable.

Such sentiments are restrained under the grand national strategy, which is understandable. Nevertheless, people’s true feelings deserve to be voiced, for everyone has dignity.
 

FriedButter

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manqiangrexue

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Even though they were no different than then West because they raped and massacred Chinese in Tianjin along with others including Japanese aswell as ironically providing the CCP 0 support while supporting the KMT even though they want a two state solution like in Korea and Germany. Speaking of which what the 8 Nations did in Tianjin should be seen as the precursor of the Nanjing Massacre because it involved the same crimes against Chinese civilians just that the perpetrators got away with it.

I also forgot they're the reason why this whole East Turkestan exist and why Mongolians are so obsessed with Inner Mongolia.
Right, they are forgiven because even though they were evil in the past, they are good today. That is the whole point of forgiveness; if they were never evil, you would need none. Remember that the past is the past... for all countries including Japan if they turn themselves around. All the people who perpetrated crimes, all those who suffered... and basically dead already. If you allow this to poison our relatioship with Russia today, then you are only setting us up for another century of humilation as you push Russia to the side of the US and EU all against China. There no powerful countries in the world that have never wronged China; be less picky with your allies.

People only live in the now and construct the future. Only a fool remains on his knees over the past.
LMFAO damn, you suck at debating! Your answer to the grand scheme of Sino-Russian cooperation is 2 white people (I don't know if they are Russian/American/whatever) in the park are racist to Chinese people? LOL Try MUCH MUCH harder. I don't care in the slightest.
Leaders may reach an understanding, but that does not mean the people can forgive. Never forget, China is a People's Republic.
People never forget,never ever.
You go stew to death in your hatred. We the Chinese people forgive and move on to friendship with Russia.
Bro, let’s cut the crap.
I'm not your bro. I'm Russia's bro.
Trying to kiss ass and being overly nice only makes a side look weak. Nations like the US and Russia — Anglo-Saxons, Slavs, going back to the Cossacks — are historically violent, brute-force cultures. With people like that, talking about benevolence, righteousness and virtue means absolutely nothing. Bowing and scraping will never earn real respect; it only gets seen as being a doormat.
Who are you talking about, Trump kissing ass in China? China and Russia are truly partners with no master or subservient.
Russia’s behind-the-scenes moves funding India, Vietnam and North Korea to set obstacles for China are an open secret, everyone sees it clearly. Does anyone honestly think China will just stop all cooperation with Russia over this? Geopolitics is not child’s play, guys.
Geopolitics is not your imagination. Russia does business with the India and Vietnam; it funds North Korea but that is also a Chinese ally. There is nothing there that is underhanded against China.
The Chinese public has every logical reason to hold negative feelings toward ordinary Russians. Between historical issues and the plain lack of manners among some Russian people, it is only natural that many Chinese view them unfavorably. There is no point in avoiding or whitewashing this reality.
Your premise is wrong. The Chinese public hold very positive feelings towards Russia and Russians.
Russians know perfectly well they’ve been undermining China’s interests behind the scenes. Even so, they still expect China to keep cooperating with them. They show no remorse at all, yet they still presume they can keep suppressing China unscathed.
Let the Russians speak for themselves. You speak for no one.
It’s totally reasonable for Chinese people to dislike certain Russians because of their rude behavior and historical wrongs, and there’s no need to whitewash this reality. China should interact and communicate with Russia on an equal basis, even among ordinary citizens.
"Certain Russians" does not equal all Russians, most Russians, or Russia. You can hate certain Russians for being racist towards China, but you would be stupid to confuse yourself on how the countries align.
There is actually no need for China to feel anxious about facing pressure without Russia’s partnership.
Why? You think that China should face a US free from the Ukraine conflict with an EU flush with Russian energy and a Russia with the most nukes in the world? Yes, I think that's what you want.
On the contrary, Russia could never withstand the hostility from the West all alone without support from China and Iran. The U.S. will never let Russia prosper in peace. Once other competitors are out of the way, America will definitely move to dismantle Russia.
So we will not allow them to do that to our ally.
That’s exactly why China has no need to keep indulging Russia and feeding its overinflated ego.
You have not provided any reasoning at all, only your wishes and imagination.
Being overly accommodating like that is fundamentally a lack of respect for China itself.
Attacking our most critical ally at the crux of a superpower struggle is fundamentally retarded. We are not overly accommodating; we are making deals and alliances that are mutually beneficial. You do not want this because it does not seem by your writing style that you are Chinese at all. I think you want to see the West toast to a Sino-Russian fracture. Luckily, Putin and Xi hold close cooperation and the Chinese and Russian people hold very positive views of each other.
 
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