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zhaovicher

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It seems like you want to create enemies when there are none. Russia is as of now a solid ally of China and has been for a number of years. Same goes the other way.

When you include DPRK in the mix, and Pakistan on the "other side" of the map, there are 4 nuclear-armed countries that have a very close relationship, especially towards PRC.
Only Russia and Pakistan have still a "weaker" economic and military link between them, but it's growing step-by-step.
However, Iran has now also emerged into this mix, getting closer now to both Russia and China (PRC).

India is unfortunately a problem, but if the Congress is able to overthrow the Hindutva-extremist Modi in 3 years from now, there is a potential to even more regional integration.

Then, there is Bangladesh and Vietnam with growing ties with these countries now as well, along with Thailand, etc.

China is never going to be that powerful and be able to take on U.S. Imperial network that also includes Japan, and then having to worry about Hindutva-BJP-extremists on the other side + adding now Russians - according to you - as an enemy, just for fun.

China needs friends and allies and China also needs very strong defense, if China is planning to "break-out" of the containment strategy that U.S. is putting against it in Western Pacific.

There is no dispute between Russia and PRC as of today, and border dispute has been settled long time ago.

So there are extremely few individuals that share this sentiment with you regarding targeting Russia as some kind of enemy. Just random online idiots.

China is even way too nice against Modi-regime despite the fact that there is a considerable number of Maoist rebels in India that could easely have been fully armed by PRC to create Superior Maoist Reich of the 21sts Century in India - and then China could have armed around 200.000.000 Muslims that live in India as well to create Supreme Islamic People's Republic of India.
Then China could have armed all Dalits, to create Dalit's People's Republic. Etc. So much crap China could have done, and China is not doing it.
It would be extremely irresponsible in every way to make an enemy of Russians for absolutely nothing, when the whole West wants Russia dead and cut up in several pieces, the same way they were able to do with USSR.

Russia is an ally, and there is no reason to think otherwise.
It seems like you want to create enemies when there are none. Russia is as of now a solid ally of China and has been for a number of years. Same goes the other way.

When you include DPRK in the mix, and Pakistan on the "other side" of the map, there are 4 nuclear-armed countries that have a very close relationship, especially towards PRC.
Only Russia and Pakistan have still a "weaker" economic and military link between them, but it's growing step-by-step.
However, Iran has now also emerged into this mix, getting closer now to both Russia and China (PRC).

India is unfortunately a problem, but if the Congress is able to overthrow the Hindutva-extremist Modi in 3 years from now, there is a potential to even more regional integration.

Then, there is Bangladesh and Vietnam with growing ties with these countries now as well, along with Thailand, etc.

China is never going to be that powerful and be able to take on U.S. Imperial network that also includes Japan, and then having to worry about Hindutva-BJP-extremists on the other side + adding now Russians - according to you - as an enemy, just for fun.

China needs friends and allies and China also needs very strong defense, if China is planning to "break-out" of the containment strategy that U.S. is putting against it in Western Pacific.

There is no dispute between Russia and PRC as of today, and border dispute has been settled long time ago.

So there are extremely few individuals that share this sentiment with you regarding targeting Russia as some kind of enemy. Just random online idiots.

China is even way too nice against Modi-regime despite the fact that there is a considerable number of Maoist rebels in India that could easely have been fully armed by PRC to create Superior Maoist Reich of the 21sts Century in India - and then China could have armed around 200.000.000 Muslims that live in India as well to create Supreme Islamic People's Republic of India.
Then China could have armed all Dalits, to create Dalit's People's Republic. Etc. So much crap China could have done, and China is not doing it.
It would be extremely irresponsible in every way to make an enemy of Russians for absolutely nothing, when the whole West wants Russia dead and cut up in several pieces, the same way they were able to do with USSR.

Russia is an ally, and there is no reason to think otherwise.
Dear Sir,

I don’t think it is accurate to simply call Russia China’s ally. At the very least, in China’s official diplomatic wording, Russia is not referred to as an ally. I acknowledge that China and Russia now stand back-to-back, having to overcome difficulties together in the face of containment from the entire West.

China has shown genuine sincerity. It has stayed firmly beside Russia and kept providing consistent support all along. Even when facing diplomatic pressure and awkward public criticism, China has never wavered from its position. On this front, China has done nothing wrong at all. I can fully understand minor economic frictions between the two sides.

However, Russia has not acted properly on certain political moves that create unnecessary troubles for China. For instance, it pushed hard to bring India into the BRICS, which has left the organization practically gridlocked. I do not believe China originally intended for India to join. Nor do I think empty polite words can change Russia’s underlying mentality of containing China. Its attitude is simply contradictory: it needs China right now, and China also needs it. It is nothing more than mutual reliance.
 

Puss in Boots

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Dear Administrator,
I have received your reminder. I will no longer cite minor individual incidents as examples. But I do have a question. Based on the data you provided: 83% of Chinese people hold a favorable impression of Russia, while merely 69% of Russians hold a favorable view of China, despite the same survey sample scale.

China has long been offering substantial support and assistance to Russia. Logically, as the recipient of such help, Russia ought to show greater appreciation towards China. Yet its favorable rating is actually lower. Don’t you think this is rather abnormal?

What I want to express is that diverse voices should be allowed to exist, and such rational reflections ought not to be labeled as undermining the foundation of bilateral cooperation.
The differing opinions you mentioned regarding ordinary people in China and Russia are real, but as exchanges between the two sides deepen, these unfriendly voices are generally declining. Only when relations reach a bottleneck requiring further understanding will such issues become priorities for discussion and resolution. Clearly, Sino-Russian relations have not yet reached the point where such issues need to be addressed. Frequently hyping up such issues at this stage is inappropriate and will often be perceived as having ulterior motives.
 

zhaovicher

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Registered Member
The differing opinions you mentioned regarding ordinary people in China and Russia are real, but as exchanges between the two sides deepen, these unfriendly voices are generally declining. Only when relations reach a bottleneck requiring further understanding will such issues become priorities for discussion and resolution. Clearly, Sino-Russian relations have not yet reached the point where such issues need to be addressed. Frequently hyping up such issues at this stage is inappropriate and will often be perceived as having ulterior motives.
Dear Sir.
If I intended to stir up public opinion, I would do so on mainstream video platforms instead of discussing these matters on third-party forums. I have no such intention at all, and I am merely talking about plain objective facts. There is no reason why Russians can act arbitrarily. They are free to voice discontent towards China, hold discriminatory attitudes, and openly take actions that obstruct China’s interests.

For example, the deployment of Wagner mercenaries in Africa, pushing India into the SCO and BRICS, and openly backing Vietnam. Has Russia ever considered the impact these moves have on China-Russia relations? I believe it has, yet it sees no major issues, for it knows China needs Russia just as Russia needs China.

Given this symbiotic relationship between the two nations, China has no need to keep currying favor with this country or its people. Due to cultural divides, neither Russians nor Westerners can truly comprehend the Chinese traditional virtues of benevolence, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and faith. Excessive compromise will only be mistaken for cowardice.

Major national political decisions rest with our Party and state leaders, while ordinary people can enjoy more freedom of expression in cultural and folk exchanges. The Chinese people are warm, sincere and hospitable, but we are by no means weak, nor will we overlook all provocations easily. I am just voicing my thoughts in a rational way. It is not that I keep hyping up this topic frequently; there are simply no new viewpoints or relevant news for people to talk about, and I am only responding normally to questions raised by others.
 

Randomuser

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At the end of the day, what unites China and Russia together is grievance against the west and the west really helps in wanting both dead so that really helps in perpetuating a cycle. That takes priority over grievances between China and Russia at the moment. In the future that might be something but if you don't win today, you won't even get that future to fight over.

I have seen before some westerners trying to tell China to remember its grievances with Russia yet somehow have the gall to ask China to let go of how the west wronged it before. So that's why posters here are suspicious of such narratives. There is an order of priority here and despite the fact that there are issues between China and Russia, there's a much bigger threat at the moment.

Whats actually most important is if Russia can do its job right now instead of dragging China down. But thats a different topic.
 

Puss in Boots

Junior Member
Registered Member
Dear Sir.
If I intended to stir up public opinion, I would do so on mainstream video platforms instead of discussing these matters on third-party forums. I have no such intention at all, and I am merely talking about plain objective facts. There is no reason why Russians can act arbitrarily. They are free to voice discontent towards China, hold discriminatory attitudes, and openly take actions that obstruct China’s interests.

For example, the deployment of Wagner mercenaries in Africa, pushing India into the SCO and BRICS, and openly backing Vietnam. Has Russia ever considered the impact these moves have on China-Russia relations? I believe it has, yet it sees no major issues, for it knows China needs Russia just as Russia needs China.

Given this symbiotic relationship between the two nations, China has no need to keep currying favor with this country or its people. Due to cultural divides, neither Russians nor Westerners can truly comprehend the Chinese traditional virtues of benevolence, righteousness, propriety, wisdom and faith. Excessive compromise will only be mistaken for cowardice.

Major national political decisions rest with our Party and state leaders, while ordinary people can enjoy more freedom of expression in cultural and folk exchanges. The Chinese people are warm, sincere and hospitable, but we are by no means weak, nor will we overlook all provocations easily. I am just voicing my thoughts in a rational way. It is not that I keep hyping up this topic frequently; there are simply no new viewpoints or relevant news for people to talk about, and I am only responding normally to questions raised by others.
As an ancient civilization that has endured to this day, showing a little patience won't cost China anything. China doesn't urgently need a fundamental shift in the Russian people's attitude towards China. Just as Zhuge Liang only gained Meng Huo's unwavering loyalty after capturing him seven times, getting a major power like Russia to cooperate wholeheartedly with China will require at least many more tests.
 

zhaovicher

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Registered Member
At the end of the day, what unites China and Russia together is grievance against the west and the west really helps in wanting both dead so that really helps in perpetuating a cycle. That takes priority over grievances between China and Russia at the moment. In the future that might be something but if you don't win today, you won't even get that future to fight over.

I have seen before some westerners trying to tell China to remember its grievances with Russia yet somehow have the gall to ask China to let go of how the west wronged it before. So that's why posters here are suspicious of such narratives. There is an order of priority here and despite the fact that there are issues between China and Russia, there's a much bigger threat at the moment.

Whats actually most important is if Russia can do its job right now instead of dragging China down. But thats a different topic.

As an ancient civilization that has endured to this day, showing a little patience won't cost China anything. China doesn't urgently need a fundamental shift in the Russian people's attitude towards China. Just as Zhuge Liang only gained Meng Huo's unwavering loyalty after capturing him seven times, getting a major power like Russia to cooperate wholeheartedly with China will require at least many more tests.

I will answer questions from both of you at the same time.

Firstly, when ranking the historical damages and grievances imposed on China by Russia and other Western countries, I personally place Russia in first place, even ahead of Japan. Objectively speaking, the death toll of Chinese people caused by Russia in history is almost on par with that inflicted by Japan. Furthermore, the loss of territory is an everlasting national humiliation. Russia has territorial conflicts with almost all its neighboring countries, yet it never realizes these disputes will leave eternal hatred. Some may say this is their national character, but it does not stop me from disliking this country.

Many Western nations hope China can let go of past hatred. Most of the resentment towards Western countries comes from cultural colonization and economic exploitation. With China’s rise, these past grievances can gradually be resolved. However, the pain of lost territory can never be forgiven.

Next, I will talk about the classic allusion Seven Captures of Meng Huo from the Three Kingdoms period. Russia is never Meng Huo. It cannot be conquered, nor will it ever yield. Every country that has territorial disputes with China has direct or indirect ties with Russia. To outsiders, this may seem remarkable, but as Chinese people, it is truly hard for us to accept.

China has always shown sincere respect to Russia. There are numerous monuments commemorating Soviet heroes across Northeast China, carved with the names and hometowns of Soviet soldiers who sacrificed their lives fighting against fascism. This is China’s sincere gratitude for their aid in the anti-fascist war, yet this kindness cannot cover up historical facts.

Russia is far more than just holding China back. It harbors hidden schemes. It refuses to accept and recognize that China has surpassed it in strength, and constantly creates troubles and obstacles for China. Honestly, I cannot endure such conduct. This country bears bloody historical debts to China, yet it still engages in these petty and calculating moves while receiving help and support from China. I can never develop affection for such a country. I understand the overall national strategic decisions, but this situation is exactly the story of the farmer and the snake. We must always be on guard against it. I firmly believe China’s senior leaders have long seen through all these hidden intentions, since everything is obvious and transparent. China’s top authorities have released the greatest goodwill. Otherwise, these issues would have triggered heated arguments and fierce discussions on domestic online platforms long ago
 
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