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zhaovicher

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1. My experience with Russians does not fit your narrative; I find them proud but still friendly, kind, reasonable/rational and intellectual. I have met them in America and Kazakhstan. I have never been to Russia.

2. We do not need countries to be kind, sweet, lovely and flattering towards us, then buckle to US pressure. We need countries like Russia; regardless of how arrogant they are to us (according to you, and some others, but not felt by me), they stand strong against the US and all NATO and the effect is a big help to China. Solid actions are worth infinitely more than words or feelings.

3. All scores are settled when they stand back to back with us against the common enemy; there is no division between China and our greatest ally against Western/American imperialism. There is no desire in China to revive any old disagreements with Russia. Any attempt to insinuate otherwise, I cannot interpret as anything other than intent to help the West/USA by damaging the alliance that they fear most.

I can provide testimony for the second half of that: I have a close friend studying in Moscow, an ethnic Chinese with a very typical East Asian appearance. He has gotten nothing but respect from Russians, especially when he introduces himself as Kitaiski — they are less kind when he introduces himself by his legal citizenship. The only discriminatory incidents he encountered were ironically from minority peoples like Buryats and Uzbeks!

It sounds like there are even more provocateurs coming here to spread anti-Russian sentiments among overseas Chinese again.
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Phead128

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Why do you care what 1 randos say?

You can find randos saying any random opinion on the internet. However, large public polling with 1,005 interviews by Gallup in Russia show a 69% favorable opinion of China across a large sample size, not just small sample size.

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the Leadership of Russia and China have agreed to put differences aside because of a common imminent threat (US). So it's not ignoring it, it's that there is a bigger threat that wants both to fail.
 

Serb

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Ten messages, and somehow 90% of them are about Russia, while the only China-related post is this masterpiece of sincere concern:

Has the United States really seized a Chinese cruise ship in Venezuela? Is China really this weak?

Brother is not even baiting with a fishing rod, he’s throwing dynamite into the pond.

Why do you care what 1 randos say?

You can find randos saying any random opinion on the internet. However, large public polling with 1,005 interviews by Gallup in Russia show a 69% favorable opinion of China across a large sample size, not just small sample size.

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Yes, it's fair to say Russia has imperialistic tendencies towards weaker countries (China is no longer weak), but it is also true that the Leadership of Russia and China have agreed to put differences aside because of a common imminent threat (US). So it's not ignoring it, it's that there is a bigger threat that wants both to fail.

Posting history:

“Russia and China should definitely resent each other.”
“Also, is China weak?”
“Just concerned.”

Sure, man. And I’m the Queen of Denmark.
 

zhaovicher

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Ten messages, and somehow 90% of them are about Russia, while the only China-related post is this masterpiece of sincere concern:



Brother is not even baiting with a fishing rod, he’s throwing dynamite into the pond.



Posting history:

“Russia and China should definitely resent each other.”
“Also, is China weak?”
“Just concerned.”

Sure, man. And I’m the Queen of Denmark.
Well then, Your Royal Highness the Queen of Denmark. What do you think of the user comments on Chinese video platforms? Are all these real experiences just some traditional Danish joke to you?
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zhaovicher

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Why do you care what 1 randos say?

You can find randos saying any random opinion on the internet. However, large public polling with 1,005 interviews by Gallup in Russia show a 69% favorable opinion of China across a large sample size, not just small sample size.

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the Leadership of Russia and China have agreed to put differences aside because of a common imminent threat (US). So it's not ignoring it, it's that there is a bigger threat that wants both to fail.
Leaders may reach an understanding, but that does not mean the people can forgive. Never forget, China is a People's Republic.
People never forget,never ever.
 

Phead128

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Well then, Your Royal Highness the Queen of Denmark. What do you think of the user comments on Chinese video platforms? Are all these real experiences just some traditional Danish joke to you?
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You are continuing to quote n=1 from uncited videos and n=3 from randos, and stating it as a generalizable to entire population?

There is another n=1,002 survey in China showing 83% favorable opinion of Russia.
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. There is an n=1,005 survey in Russia showing 69% favorable opinion of China.
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You cannot take low sample size and assert it as fact. That is borderline trolling and derailing. You have been warned now, if you continue to exaggerate and derail, you will be muted.
 

NorthKimBestKim

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Leaders may reach an understanding, but that does not mean the people can forgive. Never forget, China is a People's Republic.
People never forget,never ever.
It seems like you want to create enemies when there are none. Russia is as of now a solid ally of China and has been for a number of years. Same goes the other way.

When you include DPRK in the mix, and Pakistan on the "other side" of the map, there are 4 nuclear-armed countries that have a very close relationship, especially towards PRC.
Only Russia and Pakistan have still a "weaker" economic and military link between them, but it's growing step-by-step.
However, Iran has now also emerged into this mix, getting closer now to both Russia and China (PRC).

India is unfortunately a problem, but if the Congress is able to overthrow the Hindutva-extremist Modi in 3 years from now, there is a potential to even more regional integration.

Then, there is Bangladesh and Vietnam with growing ties with these countries now as well, along with Thailand, etc.

China is never going to be that powerful and be able to take on U.S. Imperial network that also includes Japan, and then having to worry about Hindutva-BJP-extremists on the other side + adding now Russians - according to you - as an enemy, just for fun.

China needs friends and allies and China also needs very strong defense, if China is planning to "break-out" of the containment strategy that U.S. is putting against it in Western Pacific.

There is no dispute between Russia and PRC as of today, and border dispute has been settled long time ago.

So there are extremely few individuals that share this sentiment with you regarding targeting Russia as some kind of enemy. Just random online idiots.

China is even way too nice against Modi-regime despite the fact that there is a considerable number of Maoist rebels in India that could easely have been fully armed by PRC to create Superior Maoist Reich of the 21sts Century in India - and then China could have armed around 200.000.000 Muslims that live in India as well to create Supreme Islamic People's Republic of India.
Then China could have armed all Dalits, to create Dalit's People's Republic. Etc. So much crap China could have done, and China is not doing it.
It would be extremely irresponsible in every way to make an enemy of Russians for absolutely nothing, when the whole West wants Russia dead and cut up in several pieces, the same way they were able to do with USSR.

Russia is an ally, and there is no reason to think otherwise.
 

zhaovicher

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1. My experience with Russians does not fit your narrative; I find them proud but still friendly, kind, reasonable/rational and intellectual. I have met them in America and Kazakhstan. I have never been to Russia.

2. We do not need countries to be kind, sweet, lovely and flattering towards us, then buckle to US pressure. We need countries like Russia; regardless of how arrogant they are to us (according to you, and some others, but not felt by me), they stand strong against the US and all NATO and the effect is a big help to China. Solid actions are worth infinitely more than words or feelings.

3. All scores are settled when they stand back to back with us against the common enemy; there is no division between China and our greatest ally against Western/American imperialism. There is no desire in China to revive any old disagreements with Russia. Any attempt to insinuate otherwise, I cannot interpret as anything other than intent to help the West/USA by damaging the alliance that they fear most.
Bro, let’s cut the crap. Trying to kiss ass and being overly nice only makes a side look weak. Nations like the US and Russia — Anglo-Saxons, Slavs, going back to the Cossacks — are historically violent, brute-force cultures. With people like that, talking about benevolence, righteousness and virtue means absolutely nothing. Bowing and scraping will never earn real respect; it only gets seen as being a doormat.

Russia’s behind-the-scenes moves funding India, Vietnam and North Korea to set obstacles for China are an open secret, everyone sees it clearly. Does anyone honestly think China will just stop all cooperation with Russia over this? Geopolitics is not child’s play, guys.

The Chinese public has every logical reason to hold negative feelings toward ordinary Russians. Between historical issues and the plain lack of manners among some Russian people, it is only natural that many Chinese view them unfavorably. There is no point in avoiding or whitewashing this reality.

Russians know perfectly well they’ve been undermining China’s interests behind the scenes. Even so, they still expect China to keep cooperating with them. They show no remorse at all, yet they still presume they can keep suppressing China unscathed.

It’s totally reasonable for Chinese people to dislike certain Russians because of their rude behavior and historical wrongs, and there’s no need to whitewash this reality. China should interact and communicate with Russia on an equal basis, even among ordinary citizens.

There is actually no need for China to feel anxious about facing pressure without Russia’s partnership. On the contrary, Russia could never withstand the hostility from the West all alone without support from China and Iran. The U.S. will never let Russia prosper in peace. Once other competitors are out of the way, America will definitely move to dismantle Russia.

That’s exactly why China has no need to keep indulging Russia and feeding its overinflated ego. Being overly accommodating like that is fundamentally a lack of respect for China itself.
 

zhaovicher

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You are continuing to quote n=1 from uncited videos and n=3 from randos, and stating it as a generalizable to entire population?

There is another n=1,002 survey in China showing 83% favorable opinion of Russia.
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. There is an n=1,005 survey in Russia showing 69% favorable opinion of China.
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You cannot take low sample size and assert it as fact. That is borderline trolling and derailing. You have been warned now, if you continue to exaggerate and derail, you will be muted.
Dear Administrator,
I have received your reminder. I will no longer cite minor individual incidents as examples. But I do have a question. Based on the data you provided: 83% of Chinese people hold a favorable impression of Russia, while merely 69% of Russians hold a favorable view of China, despite the same survey sample scale.

China has long been offering substantial support and assistance to Russia. Logically, as the recipient of such help, Russia ought to show greater appreciation towards China. Yet its favorable rating is actually lower. Don’t you think this is rather abnormal?

What I want to express is that diverse voices should be allowed to exist, and such rational reflections ought not to be labeled as undermining the foundation of bilateral cooperation.
 
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