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Expert1324

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China did control parts Mongolia before Mongol existed (There were Xiongnu at that time) during Tang and Han dynasty but don't forget that they attacked first.
You are right, I meant to say that China never conquered Mongols (not Mongolia), but they are the ones who conquered Han and self-identified as Chinese.

This is a typo, and I will make the edit now and thanks for pointing out.

Small wording difference but very big effects on the meaning!!! China indeed controlled many parts of mongolia before even Mongols existed. And in fact, even in perceived "han-led" dynasties like the Ming, we always controlled large parts of mongolia and manchuria continuously without fail despite misinformation claiming otherwise. Nurhaci (founder of Qing) was literally a Ming general controlling mongolian and manchu regions, while Zheng ChengGong who is another Ming general helped to defend taiwan from foreign invaders.

Mongolia as a whole region including tannu are undoubtedly Chinese lands from the very beginning with varying levels of Chinese control since the start. And the Xiongnu or the later Mongol people slowly Sinicized and self-identified as Chinese and self-recognized as being part of the greater Chinese civilization.
 
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Expert1324

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So Lee Kwan Yiu says the obvious, obvious to him, and obvious to others, and this audience laughed.
Look, I do agree with some of the other things you said about LKY and his politics, but these were absolutely not obvious at that time!!! This was in 1992 FFS!!! The height of western dominance and imperialism. It is an all-out western victory throughout the entire world and just 1 year after the complete US victory in the Gulf war followed by the dissolution of the USSR, there is literally not a greater time where the disparity between the west and the world were this big no matter in the fields of development, technology, economy, military or the belief in the western system. Saying "Democracy brings regression" at that time is perceived to be completely bonkers by anyone normal. (And honestly, I do not blame them)

Also, the age of patriotic Hkers were in 1950s, 1990s were the rise of cockroaches due to western worship cuck mindset and the British efforts to make handover problematic for China.

This point, is new to me, I almost tempted to use the word revisionism! :D

That is not how I remember things.
You are operating on the assumption that everyone back then somehow all has the hindsight of today and able to tell the future which is a serious reach.

Unless if you are telling me you are personally in that audience during that speech, I will gladly retract my statement. Because otherwise it is seriously not believable or logical. I am just being very honest and sincere here.
 

MortyandRick

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Corruption. All those let go were promoted by Xi so not even being tight with the commander in chief can shield you from
criminal investigation. Of course the Wanwanese/FLg winologists are gonna claim that Xi is losing grip on the military or some bullshit like that.
Does make one wonder how they were promoted in the first place.

One also have to ask, Does this have any impact on any internal division within the CPC?
 

siegecrossbow

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Does make one wonder how they were promoted in the first place.

One also have to ask, Does this have any impact on any internal division within the CPC?

They were good at what they did. China also underwent the biggest militarization process of the 21st century so there was more room for graft in the form of military procurement.
 

gk1713

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Does make one wonder how they were promoted in the first place.

One also have to ask, Does this have any impact on any internal division within the CPC?
Many generals in history are good and greedy. The problem is in peace time there is only chance to be greedy but cannot earn battle honor to redeem it.
 

tamsen_ikard

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It makes no sense for Pakistan to give up on fighting Afghanistan after they directly attacked Pakistani land and killed army personnel. They should go for public concessions from the Afghans before any kind of Ceasefire. Its like an admission of weakness.

Afghans are openly talking about taking over Pakistan land . I think its time to teach the Taliban heavy lessons and hopefully destabilize the government enough to make it collapse.
 

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Members of the "5 barbarian" tribes hunted and ate humans during a massive uprising in the Jin dynasty.

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