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4Tran

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The weaker US gets, the more incentive it has that China's hostile neighbours and its allies get their own nukes so that they can act as the anti-China trouble maker while it sits back.

Plenty of think tankers and other people in the west support Taiwan getting nukes these days. They actively cheer for it. Why do you think that is, its cause they are starting to realize fighting a Taiwan war is no longer viable for US. But that doesn't mean they want to give up on Taiwan, they think without US support the best option for Taiwan is to get nukes.
Are the people supporting Taiwan getting nukes utter idiots? They don't want to fight a war for Taiwan, so they decide to cross the reddest of red lines, and automatically trigger one! And it's the one that gives China the most amount of justification, and it kills the idea of Japan or South Korea acquiring nuclear weapons! The only good thing about this so called plan is that the DPP isn't suicidal so there's zero chance that Taiwan would agree to it.
 

Puss in Boots

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The weaker US gets, the more incentive it has that China's hostile neighbours and its allies get their own nukes so that they can act as the anti-China trouble maker while it sits back.

Plenty of think tankers and other people in the west support Taiwan getting nukes these days. They actively cheer for it. Why do you think that is, its cause they are starting to realize fighting a Taiwan war is no longer viable for US. But that doesn't mean they want to give up on Taiwan, they think without US support the best option for Taiwan is to get nukes.

Preventing nuclear proliferation is a secondary goal compared to preventing China's rise or ensuring China is busy trying to fight its smaller neighbours and do not have the ability to project power across the globe.

US already implicitly supports Japan and SK getting nukes. Especially plenty of Trump-leaning "realists" think US should get out Asia Pacific alliances but allow Japan and SK to get nukes.

So, no I don't US or Europe will be against Japan, SK, Korea or Australia getting nukes. I expect them to support this openly in the future. It will be up to China to prevent it. and they have to use Military force to do it.
I've already said it: no one wants their power diluted!
Even in the early Cold War, China's pursuit of nuclear weapons was met with Soviet sanctions. North Korea's development of nuclear weapons led China, despite its adherence to "non-interventionism," to impose trade sanctions on its only ally. So, what are you dreaming of?
While the United States may be losing ground in competition with China, it wouldn't be foolish enough to hand out a gun to every child! No adult would be so foolish as to give a loaded gun as a gift to a bunch of little brats.
He's not threatening his opponent! He's even entrusted his life to these children!
 

supercat

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does anyone have links to this 9/29 action? this seems like a key piece of the story that whether intentionally or not, the us is very, very quiet about.
China's restriction on rare-earth and battery is a clear response to America's escalation after the Madrid conference in mid-September. The US imposed more sanctions against China less than 2 weeks after they met in Spain - not very nice to say the least. BTW, I'm still eagerly waiting for China's announcement to purchase 500 Boeing airliners and invest $1 trillion in the US.

Trump just posted this:


He just saved China from depression and none of you ungrateful mofos have even said thankyou!:mad:
Reminds me of this gem from the past:

Fascinating story about how China broke up America's stronghold on helium:

LMAO headline of the day:
 

SanWenYu

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"THE PENTAGON HAS LAUNCHED A $1 BILLION BUYING SPREE TO STOCKPILE CRITICAL MINERALS, AIMED AT SECURING SUPPLY CHAINS AMID GROWING GEOPOLITICAL TENSIONS."

Trump calls Putin: "Vladimir, I'll pay you to buy lots of washing machines from Xi. You keep the chips. Leave the magnets to me. Deal?"

"Why don't you ring him directly?"

"I did. He is not picking up the phone!"
 

Chevalier

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Apparently the German and Dutch employees of a Chinese company used the state to steal a Chinese tech company. I expect nothing less than for them to be hunted down and dragged into a Chinese court for hefty imprisonment. Additionally, this is why I think squads of PAP should be attached to any CPC monitors at any major S&P500 company.

strenge also that this is the very sort of thing the west accused China of doing, that they would steal and nationalise their companies.

im not saying I advocate it, but it would karmic for say…Russian drones to suddenly appear over Dutch cities targeting everyone involved.
 

_killuminati_

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I've already said it: no one wants their power diluted!
Even in the early Cold War, China's pursuit of nuclear weapons was met with Soviet sanctions. North Korea's development of nuclear weapons led China, despite its adherence to "non-interventionism," to impose trade sanctions on its only ally. So, what are you dreaming of?
While the United States may be losing ground in competition with China, it wouldn't be foolish enough to hand out a gun to every child! No adult would be so foolish as to give a loaded gun as a gift to a bunch of little brats.
He's not threatening his opponent! He's even entrusted his life to these children!
Tbf, Israel has nukes and America is totally okay with it nor has anybody ever sanctioned it. When Pakistan tested nukes, most of the world put up economic sanctions.... except China, who increased economic support.

Details matter.

Ukraine worked to bog down Russia because of geography and the raw power balance. Ukraine had multiple NATO member states as direct land neighbours, allowing endless and interdiction free resupply. It’s geographical position also allows NATO assets to see deep into the battlefield from territorial airspace and waters. Russian raw hard power is also lacking compared to NATO, allowing NATO to have escalation dominance and the Russians being afraid to effectively challenge them even when they are openly acting as part of Ukrainian kill chains.

SK and Japan are physically cut off from the rest of the west by vast oceans and distances. They are also far smaller in terms of land area. Supplying them during war time will range from extremely challenging to effectively suicide missions.

Chinese hard power is also vastly greater than Russia’s, as well as SK and Japan. Chinese hard power is also far more comprehensive and complete, in that it can undertake the full range of modern combat operations, including SEAD and DEAD that the Russians just cannot really manage. That allows China to hit SK and Japan with its full military might and range of weapons. Simply put, there is no realistic prospect that they will be able to bog the PLA down. Especially if China takes SK and uses that as its springboard to take Japan rather than trying to island hop along the second island chain, which will be a far more difficult and costly campaign.

As for regional instability, that only holds true if stalemate can be achieved on the battlefield. If you cannot hold your line on the battlefield, you will just get steamrolled and peace and stability will return to the region after you have been conquered.
Forget SK, I can only see that isolation if Japan is totally encircled. There is USN presence there and nearby, and USN is still very lethal. The only way of encircling i can see is if China engaged USN directly to cut off the supply routes; otherwise, Japan could carry on a protracted asymmetric war, despite being shattered like Afghanistan or Yemen.

See Gaza atm - it is totally encircled but the resistance is still causing damage to IDF years into the war. Or Yemen - both land borders are with US allies while coast is occupied by NATO and Israel, and despite the war with KSA + civil war + bombing by US/UK/Israel, it has effectively disabled Red Sea freight movement for enemies, disabled Israel's only Red Sea port, and still launching attacks on Israel. Japan is more sophisticated and better armed than both Yemen and Gaza combined.
 

4Tran

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Forget SK, I can only see that isolation if Japan is totally encircled. There is USN presence there and nearby, and USN is still very lethal. The only way of encircling i can see is if China engaged USN directly to cut off the supply routes; otherwise, Japan could carry on a protracted asymmetric war, despite being shattered like Afghanistan or Yemen.

See Gaza atm - it is totally encircled but the resistance is still causing damage to IDF years into the war. Or Yemen - both land borders are with US allies while coast is occupied by NATO and Israel, and despite the war with KSA + civil war + bombing by US/UK/Israel, it has effectively disabled Red Sea freight movement for enemies, disabled Israel's only Red Sea port, and still launching attacks on Israel. Japan is more sophisticated and better armed than both Yemen and Gaza combined.
Japan is an island nation so it's completely vulnerable to a blockade; even a partial one. Gaza has nothing to lose so isolating it is only can only do so much. Japan is a proserous first world nation, and even cutting off a bit of trade would wreck it. The cost benefit analysis is just not there for a Japanese acquisition of nuclear weapons as long as China can convincingly threaten it. And honestly, I can see it happening as a nuclear Japan is as close as you can get to crossing a Chinese red line outside of Taiwan scenarios.
 
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