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_killuminati_

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Indeed it seems clear that China’s leadership are clear eyed about the true war-like nature of Anglos.

This is a core reason why China has been so restrained previously in its dealings with the Anglos, always leaving them enough room to climb back down without forcing them into a corner from which war is the only viable option left to them. But that is changing as the balance of hard power tips ever more in China’s favour.

The RE moves are also designed to hard counter any attempt by the U.S. to copy and paste Ukraine in Asia. Because with the RE restrictions in force, every missile, bomb and plane they sent to Japan in a proxy way will be one less from their own inventories. Not to mention the vastly different geographical and logistical situations.

Basically I think Beijing has concluded that war with Japan as basically a forgone conclusion, and has been preparing accordingly for decades now. And rather than being an eastern Ukraine, a Japanese campaign will look very different since Japan is an island nation utterly dependent on shipments of basically every major resource for normal daily life, while being geographically isolated from possible allied support. They will get bombed and blockages to hell and back, with massive and unrestrained use of naval mines by the PLAN in the second island chain to sever their sea transport links with the U.S. and Australia (that’s the main reason China’s ultra large UUAVs are so large and have mine laying as a key feature) without even needing to rely on Chinese carrier fleets or manned subs, both of which will also be massively active to massive increase the risks and costs of trying to resupply Japan. There will also no zero tolerance of 3rd parties ostensively flying the flag of neutrality while functioning as part of Japanese kill chains. So their intelligence gather, targeting and battle damage assessments capabilities will be massively limited, which will fundamentally limit the effectiveness of any advanced weapons they do manage to get.

While Japan is being bombed back to the Stone Age and systematically starved of all resources, China will focus to settle the Korean question. Either SK flips sides totally and becomes an actively participating Chinese ally, or they get absorbed by North Korea with direct PLA combat support.

Once SK has been flipped/pacified, it will be used as the main springboard for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. And this time, there won’t be any comprised half measures. Either the Japanese accepts Nuremberg style cleansing of its entire society of all fascist roots, or they can feed their entire adult population into the meat grinder against overwhelming Chinese firepower and swarms of unmanned ground combat constructs to achieve the same goal. But that won’t be so much the Ukrainian model as it will be the Gaza model.
I believe the intent is to bog down China with regional conflicts and cause as much disruption and damage as possible. Nobody expects Japan or SK to win. These are cannon fodder countries. War on the borders is never a good thing; regional instability is very disruptive even on the home front. The wars in Afghanistan, for example, wrecked the border countries for decades, hampering growth & development indefinitely.
 

plawolf

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One thing: South Korea won't flip. Among youth 18-29 China's favorability is now lower than Japan's and there are violent racist attacks against Mandarin speakers.

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South Korea is now all-in with Japanese imperialism.

South Korea noflipping would actually be the preferred outcome for China, not to mention North Korea.

A fully intact SK will have a massive sway in the new reunified Greater Korea (GK) and will be hard for even Kim to quickly and effectively purge. So internal security will be a problem in the short term, and it could cause political problems in the medium to longer term if they can sow discord and discontent within former NK citizens with their fairy tales of what time was like before reunification and their higher standards of living. SK economic and industrial power would also lend GK significantly more power to pursue its own course, even if contrary to Chinese interests.

If SK fights for their American overlords, most of the most hardcore American wannabes would be liquidated in combat. Their industry and economy would be destroyed, so GK would be far more dependable on Chinese money and tech for reconstruction and industrialisation. Paradoxically, internal security should also be better as much more forceful and draconian internal security measures could be rolled out to pacify a conquered SK compared to the softly softly approach that would be demanded if they flipped and needed to be kept on side.
 

plawolf

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Trump just posted this:


He just saved China from depression and none of you ungrateful mofos have even said thankyou!:mad:

Ah I see, Trump truly loves the Chinese people and was worried about the mental well-being of the Chinese public, so he launched the trade wars for America to get absolutely wrecked as a way to help lift the mood of the Chinese public to reduce clinical depression levels within China. He is truly a great friend of the Chinese people!
 

AssassinsMace

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The one thing that’s happening is the large majority in comments seems to support China against Trump. Before it was mixed. Even Rahm Emmanuel here has to concede a bit though he’s lying that Trump relented and let China buy H20 Nvidia chips. No, China didn’t buy. Beijing ordered no one to buy. He said that to claim Biden got allies together to stop selling semiconductors to China while Trump opened the door wide. No, allies are still not selling to China. Emmanuel just doesn’t want to admit getting allies together did little and failed against China.
 

Phead128

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South Korea noflipping would actually be the preferred outcome for China, not to mention North Korea.

A fully intact SK will have a massive sway in the new reunified Greater Korea (GK) and will be hard for even Kim to quickly and effectively purge. So internal security will be a problem in the short term, and it could cause political problems in the medium to longer term if they can sow discord and discontent within former NK citizens with their fairy tales of what time was like before reunification and their higher standards of living. SK economic and industrial power would also lend GK significantly more power to pursue its own course, even if contrary to Chinese interests.

If SK fights for their American overlords, most of the most hardcore American wannabes would be liquidated in combat. Their industry and economy would be destroyed, so GK would be far more dependable on Chinese money and tech for reconstruction and industrialisation. Paradoxically, internal security should also be better as much more forceful and draconian internal security measures could be rolled out to pacify a conquered SK compared to the softly softly approach that would be demanded if they flipped and needed to be kept on side.
I'm pretty sure SK will go nuclear at some point (due to re-militarization of Japan + weakening confidence in US security umbrella, particularly post-Taiwan AR + stagnant denuclearization talks with NK + increasing modernization of China), so the only solution is demilitarization/denuclearization of SK for a genuine and permanent reunified peninsula. In other words, denuclearize both NK+SK, de-Americanize SK, and de-Juche-ize NK, via supreme military force.
 

tamsen_ikard

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I'm pretty sure SK will go nuclear at some point (due to re-militarization of Japan + lack of confidence in US security umbrella, particularly post-Taiwan AR + stagnant denuclearization talks with NK + military rise of China), so the only solution is demilitarization/denuclearization of SK for a genuine and permanent reunified peninsula. In other words, denuclearize both NK+SK, de-Americanize SK, and de-Juche-ize NK, via supreme military force.
China will not allow SK to go nuclear. No Chinese neighbour within the range of China's hypersonic missiles will be allowed to get nukes anymore. They will see their country Bombed and neutralized by Chinese missiles.
 

plawolf

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I believe the intent is to bog down China with regional conflicts and cause as much disruption and damage as possible. Nobody expects Japan or SK to win. These are cannon fodder countries. War on the borders is never a good thing; regional instability is very disruptive even on the home front. The wars in Afghanistan, for example, wrecked the border countries for decades, hampering growth & development indefinitely.

Details matter.

Ukraine worked to bog down Russia because of geography and the raw power balance. Ukraine had multiple NATO member states as direct land neighbours, allowing endless and interdiction free resupply. It’s geographical position also allows NATO assets to see deep into the battlefield from territorial airspace and waters. Russian raw hard power is also lacking compared to NATO, allowing NATO to have escalation dominance and the Russians being afraid to effectively challenge them even when they are openly acting as part of Ukrainian kill chains.

SK and Japan are physically cut off from the rest of the west by vast oceans and distances. They are also far smaller in terms of land area. Supplying them during war time will range from extremely challenging to effectively suicide missions.

Chinese hard power is also vastly greater than Russia’s, as well as SK and Japan. Chinese hard power is also far more comprehensive and complete, in that it can undertake the full range of modern combat operations, including SEAD and DEAD that the Russians just cannot really manage. That allows China to hit SK and Japan with its full military might and range of weapons. Simply put, there is no realistic prospect that they will be able to bog the PLA down. Especially if China takes SK and uses that as its springboard to take Japan rather than trying to island hop along the second island chain, which will be a far more difficult and costly campaign.

As for regional instability, that only holds true if stalemate can be achieved on the battlefield. If you cannot hold your line on the battlefield, you will just get steamrolled and peace and stability will return to the region after you have been conquered.
 

pmc

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Its not supposed to take decades. But the West and India could take decades, because of how they talk more and work less. Look at how long the US and India is taking to build their HSR lines. And then they wanna build a comprehensive Rare Earth Industry?

If you're talking about Russia, yeah maybe they won't take nearly as much time. But Russia won't sell Rare Earths to the West anyways. Russia would rather use them to rebuild its military.
my post was not about West and India. It was about Gulf Royals and Russia. Russian minister was telling Saudi to create cartel like OPEC for Solid minerals and he also told them Russia alone is capable of supplying to whole world rare earth. This assumes that he knows Royals are investing in mining on large scale. I added another statement that Russia knows that current suppliers will run out in about 15 years. so replacement should come from Arabs and Russia. There is alot of meetings happened between Saudi and Russians. i wont post all the links but point is Russia has got the science both for increasing production of Rare earth and reducing Rare earth use in end product.


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It's important to note that consumers of rare-earth metal concentrates are currently modernizing their production programs. This will significantly reduce the share of rare-earth metal product imports into Russia.

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KRASNOYARSK, October 1. /TASS/. A scientific and technological cluster for the deep processing of rare and rare-earth metals (REM) will begin operations in Krasnoyarsk in 2026. It will become part of the Mendeleyev Valley Innovation Scientific and Technological Center (ISTC), Sergey Verkhovets, Vice Rector for Advanced Studies at Siberian Federal University, told TASS.

SFU, together with the D. I. Mendeleyev University of Chemical Technology of Russia, co-initiated the creation of the ISTC. The center is expected to play a key role in the emerging cluster for the deep processing of non-ferrous, rare, and rare earth metals in the Angara-Yenisei macroregion.
 

Puss in Boots

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Trump just posted this:


He just saved China from depression and none of you ungrateful mofos have even said thankyou!:mad:
As a president, he has no moral bottom line and tells lies all the time.
How could a so-called democratic political system elect such a morally depraved leader? What qualifications do they have to constantly denigrate China's political system?
We should be grateful to Trump. He has made those who still think clearly see the hypocrisy of this democratic world.
 
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