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Gloire_bb said:

So thought the collective Trump, expecting European-styled collapse.
Note that Zhongnanhai didn't, even after Sindoor. Some view China's international relations strategy as unnecessarily reserved; perhaps. But just waiting here has spectacular promises.

This is the thing with all non-aligned swin(l)er states, first power to blink, loses (Russia v Ukraine - textbook case).

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And thats fine. Thats why CPC is ruling China because they have immense patience.

I just hope they haven't gone senile and know what India really thinks/acts rather than just assuming good faith. People will say there's no way experienced guys in China don't know this but we have seen how out of touch some of them can be when they get too old.

Randomuser said:

I just hope they haven't gone senile and know what India really thinks/acts rather than just assuming good faith. People will say there's no way experienced guys in China don't know this but we have seen how out of touch some of them can be when they get too old.

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India acts in Indian (political; when speaking of interests, people imho always confuse interests with economic interests) interest, this is normal, fine and predictable.

It's Trump who misjudged here(to be fair to him, he didn't in other cases).

Gloire_bb said:

Arguably the most valuable remaining swing state in the world? and it was just shown.

When told to kneel, Europe came screaming daddy, Korea and Japan - paid immediately.
Russia isn't coming to the western camp, no matter what Trump does, though damn he tries. Oddities are Brazil and India, and being friendly to India doesn't take an entire internal revolution as with America and Russia.

India may be not exactly the most popular country on this forum, but fact remains - it's China's neighbor, it's damn huge, it's hostility to China is structural, but not inherent.

There's politics to be made, and Mr.Xi always left door open exactly for that.

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Modi is the architect of toxic viral hate of China in India today. They also go out of there way to export most of that hate of China to the West thru all spectrums of media which is controlled by BJP. Just search China news on Youtube, the negative news is all Godron Chang and BJP media.

They have always played spoiler for instability in the region and are on bad terms with almost all of their neighbours.

Everyone deserves a chance but talks and gestures are not enough, there should be real substantial actions.

India has systematically scuttled all Chinese led trans-national efforts for regional and international stability such as SCO and BRICS. Both these forums had great potential but today theyve been reduced to tea parties due to Indian belligerence.

Talks should always be welcomed, but only real, tangible, measurable actions should count.

Rafales would in a way controbute to this timeline, lol, what a time to be alive.

Gloire_bb said:

India acts in Indian (political; when speaking of interests, people imho always confuse interests with economic interests) interest, this is normal, fine and predictable.

It's Trump who misjudged here(to be fair to him, he didn't in other cases).

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I get what you are saying but the Indian way of pursuing self interest is always just vulgar and overtly self beneficial. These people act like Americans but they don't have any of that power. So I don't expect them to reach a deal with China simply for the fact that they seem to think that they are entitled to everything they want for some reason. What a drug fascism is.....

phrozenflame said:

Modi is the architect of toxic viral hate of China in India today. They also go out of there way to export most of that hate of China to the West thru all spectrums of media which is controlled by BJP. Just search China news on Youtube, the negative news is all Godron Chang and BJP media.

They have always played spoiler for instability in the region and are on bad terms with almost all of their neighbours.

Everyone deserves a chance but talks and gestures are not enough, there should be real sunstantial actions.

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Hey!!! my children is having a party this weekend, I need a clown to host the event, so who do you recommend

Trump? very expensive and may extort me an extra that may cost me an arm and a leg.

Modi? very popular this days with his recent performance last May, BUT his latest one stinks to high heaven maybe due to his new perfume after changing from Chennai number 5.

Lutnick? seems okay but he talks a lot and he is becoming a Joker

Bessent? talks in monotone voice and is boring as hell.

Lindsey? Hell NO!!! its a children party not a Gay party.

Hegseth? I think he only accept bridal shower event

That's leave Bojo the clown, I do hope he return from retirement, he is a legend and can't be replaced easily.

Randomuser said:

And thats fine. Thats why CPC is ruling China because they have immense patience.

I just hope they haven't gone senile and know what India really thinks/acts rather than just assuming good faith. People will say there's no way experienced guys in China don't know this but we have seen how out of touch some of them can be when they get too old.

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I think China should drive a hard bargain economically like all Chinese apps unbanned and tariffs on China removed type of stuff. The best use of India for China is to force them to use Chinese products and apps and extract profits out of them.

Trump as we all know has been on a pretty succesful domestic PR blitz, supposedly printing trade deals faster than the Fed's printing US dollars and reorienting the global trade order. This map shows what's really up.


So yes, it is reoriented in a way. With allied US countries and other nations reliant on US exports like Vietnam signing deals of economic vassalage, while the global south with their baseline rates will instead not only turn to the Chinese market but come to rely on Chinese support to fend off the economic bullying from Washington.

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I wonder will we see Pinoy nationalism vs India nationalism in the not too distant future soon. Will be a sight to behold.

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This is like absolutely outrageous! What kind of governance is this? Philippines going to transform itself into Canada?

Then again, seems like a match made in heaven.

If this is fate, then this is fate.

You cannot help it. That is yuan fan. 緣份

That is destiny.

Gawd daynum!

hifisnow said:

I get what you are saying but the Indian way of pursuing self interest is always just vulgar and overtly self beneficial. These people act like Americans but they don't have any of that power. So I don't expect them to reach a deal with China simply for the fact that they seem to think that they are entitled to everything they want for some reason. What a drug fascism is.....

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In theory, a strong relationship with India would be of huge benefit to any country as it's a rising power, and has huge economic potential. In reality though, India's self serving nature isn't something that can be worked with, and no country has ever benefitted in a long term relationship with them. Russia/the Soviet Union have the longest friendly relations and India hasn't been a stable partner for them.

Also, look at all the multinationals that tried to enter into India and do business there. Most of them have left in defeat, and nobody is getting much from the experience. While I don't think that a larger deal with China is impossible, I think that any real progress is unlikely. It just comes from a combination of India refusing to negotiate on any of the key underlying issues and China just not being all that interested in dealing with India's nonsense. And this won't change unless India makes some major changes to the way they deal with China. While this may be something that a theoretical leader in India can arrange, it's not possible for Modi and the BJP.

tamsen_ikard said:

I think China should drive a hard bargain economically like all Chinese apps unbanned and tariffs on China removed type of stuff. The best use of India for China is to force them to use Chinese products and apps and extract profits out of them.

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This isn't what China wants from India though. China gains very little economically from this kind of bargain, and India could impose new bans at any time. No, what China really needs are things like reaffirmation of the Indus Waters Treaty, the settlement of the disputed borders, the release of Bhutan's autonomy, and the relaxing of India-Pakistan relations. With these in place, China can then deal with India like a normal country and arrange win-win politics. But outside of the Indus Waters, I can't see India being willing to even talk about any of the major issues.

Also, I'd like to point out that China doesn't like making one-sided deals, even ones that strongly favor themselves. They see this kind of deal as inherently unstable and are unable to sustain long term friendly relations.

horse said:

This is like absolutely outrageous! What kind of governance is this? Philippines going to transform itself into Canada?

Then again, seems like a match made in heaven.

If this is fate, then this is fate.

You cannot help it. That is yuan fan. 緣份

That is destiny.

Gawd daynum!

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It feels like a typical Indian move. Philippines can't offer anything that India needs, but it can offer validation, which is what India craves. Unfortunately, this comes at the cost of relations with China, and these relations should be far more important. A smart Indian strategy would be to downplay warming Filipino ties until a big deal with China, but India will always prefer instant gratification to smart strategy.

ansy1968 said:

Hey!!! my children is having a party this weekend, I need a clown to host the event, so who do you recommend

Trump? very expensive and may extort me an extra that may cost me an arm and a leg.

Modi? very popular this days with his recent performance last May, BUT his latest one stinks to high heaven maybe due to his new perfume after changing from Chennai number 5.

Lutnick? seems okay but he talks a lot and he is becoming a Joker

Bessent? talks in monotone voice and is boring as hell.

Lindsey? Hell NO!!! its a children party not a Gay party.

Hegseth? I think he only accept bridal shower event

That's leave Bojo the clown, I do hope he return from retirement, he is a legend and can't be replaced easily.

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May I recommend President Milei of Argentina?

Bojo is a bozo, but more sad and pathetic than fun and enthusiastic.

OTOH, Milei is insane, but actually funny :