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They're angry because they've lost patronage. It is like being the best employee at your job every day for years and turning up one morning to find out you've been fired, all your things are packed and you will be escorted out by security.
In the early days of the GWOT, leaders like Jacque Chirac and Schroeder strongly opposed the Iraq war. It didn't take long until they were replaced by the war supporting neocons such as Merkel and Sarkozy. Look at eastern Europe and you'll see even bigger political U-turns. The current generation of Eastern European leaders had parents who were senior officals in the communist party, and many have grandparents who were Nazi collaborators.
Engels used the term Völkerabfälle to describe the leftover ethnicities in Europe that lacked agency in the aftermath of being conquered by powerful empire. Today the term can be applied to the entirety of Europe.
Actually its been China's MO for multiple millennia to annex the territories of barbarian tribes who inavded China, because China never forgives.
100 years might seem like a long time for water barbarians, it's not a long time for China, and as the Chinese saying goes, a gentleman will always take revenge even if takes 10 years, or a century for a nation.
It does feel like foreshadowing, all of Asia including NZ and Aus will fall under China’s umbrella no matter what happens because really since the U.S. has used those two nations to harass China for that long, China will eventually weather what ever the USA does, bring it to the point of collapse and then it will be made an example to all and only two choices will be given when the time comes, especially to all those that messed with China during the last century, surrender or getting smashed for real, some of what is long overdue. Didn’t have to happen this way but being a pawn of the U.S. ought to have consequences
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Forget the conservative media and idiots on X. You'll see in comments on most media pieces and everyday conversation that overwhelmingly Australians are aware of the hypocrisy.
There's a really strong undercurrent of anti-Americanism in Australia that's been subsumed during the Obama/Biden times but it's absolutely EXPLODING again during the reign of Trump 2.0. It's difficult to convey how much damage he's done.
I do think this is a misstep by the Chinese. A few days ago, the tenor of the national conversation was ready for a huge flip in attitudes around China and the US but that seems unlikely now. It's played into the fears of older, politically important segments of the electorate and will probably just weld us even closer to the US.
Australians have a grossly overinflated sense of how much their "attitudes" or "national conversation" matter
For Australia and every other country, the only people whose attitude that matter is the attitude of Chinese people, Australia didn't care when they f*ed around, this is them finding out, and China does not need their cooperation to make them find out.
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Americans thinking the risks of the US turning against you is not more important than just having the US like you at the moment. Ignore the fact that the US has been vilifying Chinese students in the US. Ignore the fact a new more anti-Russian US administration could show up in fours years. Same twisted logic of how Republicans want everyone to desire to live in the US but deny you from it at the same time. The US thinks it's so easy to steal China's best and brightest because of how DeepSeek beat theirs but they forget they've been arresting them as spies at every chance. The West admits China's indirect aid to Russia beat their direct military aid to Ukraine. And all because Americans want to believe there's some bitterness in people that would make them rather choose the US despite those likely to happen risks...
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