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Overbom

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Contrary to Americans, when China is sending someone, they sending the best.

Good work by Wang Yi
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China courts frazzled Europe as Western alliance wavers​

At Munich Summit, top envoy Wang Yi goes on charm offensive as US leaders berate Europe
The world shook this weekend as deep cracks appeared in the transatlantic alliance during a glitzy security summit in Munich. One guest was ready to capitalise: China.
In the margins, Beijing was making hay.

In a diplomatic blitz, Foreign Minister Wang Yi met with Germany Chancellor Olaf Scholz and his conservative opponent Friedrich Merz, Nato Secretary General Mark Rutte, and counterparts from the EU, Germany, Spain, and France. On each occasion, according to foreign ministry readouts, he pitched China as a partner to Europe and a friend of the existing order.
Wang made a more blatant pitch to Europe during a keynote speech on Friday, where - right after Vance - he said talk of “China attempting to change the [global] order” has gone quiet in light of Trump’s return.

“Now we don’t see much talk of that because now there is a country that is withdrawing from international treaties and organisations and I think in Europe, you can feel chills almost every day,” the veteran diplomat said.
While Wang’s language was not new, it resonated in stark contrast with Vance’s. The clear conclusion for many observers was that China sees an opening to improve ties with Europe and, potentially, drive a new wedge in the already fraught transatlantic alliance.
The early signs are that after a stormy few years in the EU-China relationship, some leaders in a Trump-battered Europe might be receptive to Beijing’s advances.

“This is a massive victory for China. It is just amazing what Trump has delivered to them, in less than a month,” said one European diplomat, who was not authorised to speak publicly.
After a bruising first month of Trump’s tenure, the hawkish European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen’s tone on China has softened significantly. In two notable speeches, she said there was space to deepen trade ties and even “find agreements” with Beijing, in “an era of hyper-competitive and hyper-transactional geopolitics”.
A month after he warned German companies that investing in China “is a decision involving great risk”, Merz - who is favoured to be the next German chancellor - changed his tune in Munich.


“Germany firmly supports free trade and supports deepening cooperation between Germany and China and Europe and China,” Merz told Wang, according to Beijing’s version of events.
 

BillRamengod

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Contrary to Americans, when China is sending someone, they sending the best.

Good work by Wang Yi
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China courts frazzled Europe as Western alliance wavers​

A month after he warned German companies that investing in China “is a decision involving great risk”, Merz - who is favoured to be the next German chancellor - changed his tune in Munich.


“Germany firmly supports free trade and supports deepening cooperation between Germany and China and Europe and China,” Merz told Wang, according to Beijing’s version of events.
DUUUDE, I like you better when you were 桀骜不驯.
 

Overbom

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Contrary to Americans, when China is sending someone, they sending the best.

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China courts frazzled Europe as Western alliance wavers​

DUDEEEE, I like you better when you were 桀骜不驯.
New (most likely ) German chancellor, Merz, went from (one month ago):
German firms investing in China involves great risk
To:
"Germany firmly supports free trade and supports deepening cooperation between Germany-China + Europe-China"

That's German strategic thought right there. There are some countries which have century long strategy, some which have multi-decade, some for some years, some special few for 1 year. And then there is the political basket case, called Germany, which changes it's mind after one month!

Bismarck would be proud lmao
 

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Is the US so desperate to sell F-35? India getting F-35 = Russia getting the technologies of F-35 = China getting the secretes of F-35.

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F-35 is built for export. so highly likely they have systems appropriate for various countries and Russia has spent nearly a decade observing Israeli air force conducting strikes and i am sure they were collecting data on missile rcs and flight profiles.
when this Su-57 was going to India for airshow. the pilot was interviewed by RT Arabic correspondent and this is her second long Programme about Su-57 as far i know. certain things you can instantly learn from it. this Su-57 has pixelated color. there many inferences person can make. that either radar tech has advanced enough that is darker color scheme like F-35 not matter much or active electronic warfare makes missile aiming difficult.

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Rostec decodes Russian fighter camouflage​

The most "fashionable" paint scheme for fighters is the pixel scheme, which is used only on
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. The "feature" of camouflage is a false contour, which is applied with dark gray paint over the main - light gray paint. The false contour exactly repeats the silhouette of the fighter, but due to its small size and pixel dots, it misleads the observer and makes aiming difficult

1739700403357.png.
 

horse

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Not as strong as “好自为之” aka “Fuck Around and Find Out”.
Well, yeah, but I think it is totally different, this time at least.

奉陪到底

Fung kind of means to exalt. Such as 奉拜 which basically means worship.

Pui 陪 is just a simple word for accompanying, or to accompany.

So, put them together, exalted accompaniment, 奉陪 that is just down right being sarcastic. (It even sounds sarcastic in English.)

And of course, dou die, just mean till the end, or till the mother fucking end, or till the fucking end, or till the fucking end fucking asshole, you know, it all depends on what we want to say and kind of mood we are in. :oops::rolleyes::p

I actually looked it up, because my Chinese is going, and this was used in the Tang dynasty already, and then or later, that sarcastic element came into it. But I deleted that post.

Therefore, that is all we really got to know, the connotation of it, that being the message sent.

This is what I mean.

For instance, when the Americans threaten and take actions against others, such as China, via embargoes, sanctions, or tariffs ...

As of today ...

The Chinese do not react with alarm.

The Chinese do not react with anger.

The Chinese do not react with confusion, unlike the Europeans and Canadians.

The Chinese do react with sarcasm.

What is sarcasm? That is just mocking someone.

Why are the Chinese mocking the Americans?

We mock when we hold someone in contempt, whether by a little or a lot, that is how it goes sometimes.

So that is what the Chinese leadership really thinks about this American bullying.

But, you know, the Americans, the only language they speak is American. So this message will not be understood in the way what the Chinese are really saying.

Fucking dumb fucks.

Okay, Wang Yi did not say that, he was talking about the I Ching according to the Reuters report.

I really love the Chinese language.

We can talk about just two fucking characters and swear like a fucking mother fucker while we are at it, and enjoy it so much!

Dui.

Fung bai kai da, lai. Dui.

:D
 

coolgod

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Superiority of Chinese wisdom. Wars are extremely damaging to a state. Even if you manage to become the victor, it would take an extremely long time to get any financial ROI

Much better to step aside and watch everyone else fight instead

Now everyone wants a deal. And who isn't in any hurry? Xi
Ukraine war could last for another 100 years and he could care less, cheap Russian supplies, cheap Ukrainian supplies. Selling to both Ukraine and Russia. Russia firmly in China's camp.

Maybe the real question is, do we really need peace lol
What if China's current "charm offence" to give Europe a say for the ceasefire is just to prolong the war:p
 

Biscuits

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Breaking the China Russia alliance is out of the question obviously, but there may be a potential deal where US gives Russia concessions on Ukraine / Nato while Russia gives guarantees to not cooperate with China in the Asia-Pacific region. I honestly think that China would even welcome it - it will drive a wedge between US and EU, ensuring that the EU would remain an open market for China and stay out of its military business in SCS/Taiwan, all the while being confident that China has more than enough resources to take on the US and its Asia Pacific allies by its own.
China and Russia are just doing a good cop bad cop routine that NATO somehow manages to swallow hook line and sinker.

Russia could certainly give such "guarantees" to US, it would also break the guarantees in a moment's notice if told to do so by China.
 

Africablack

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Breaking the China Russia alliance is out of the question obviously, but there may be a potential deal where US gives Russia concessions on Ukraine / Nato while Russia gives guarantees to not cooperate with China in the Asia-Pacific region. I honestly think that China would even welcome it - it will drive a wedge between US and EU, ensuring that the EU would remain an open market for China and stay out of its military business in SCS/Taiwan, all the while being confident that China has more than enough resources to take on the US and its Asia Pacific allies by its own.
China will not welcome it, lol! That's just giving the US chance to regroup and re-start their global empire games in the future. As for Russia, it might be tempting for them because they would want their own bloc they can control (they are Europeans after all). China's interest is global trade, partitioning the world will not serve China's interest. The world has moved past blocs, it has grown richer than it has ever been in human history through global trade and has been more connected than ever before. If the US thinks it can just carve out a bloc in the western hemisphere they can just control then they are mistaken, you can see how Canada, Mexico, etc are lashing out. Russia should drop delusions about empire building, it's a huge country rich in resources what in the hell do they need to control more resources for? Everybody needs to just do business with each other and go home, there'll be peace.
 

Overbom

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China will not welcome it, lol! That's just giving the US chance to regroup and re-start their global empire games in the future. As for Russia, it might be tempting for them because they would want their own bloc they can control (they are Europeans after all). China's interest is global trade, partitioning the world will not serve China's interest. The world has moved past blocs, it has grown richer than it has ever been in human history through global trade and has been more connected than ever before. If the US thinks it can just carve out a bloc in the western hemisphere they can just control then they are mistaken, you can see how Canada, Mexico, etc are lashing out. Russia should drop delusions about empire building, it's a huge country rich in resources what in the hell do they need to control more resources for? Everybody needs to just do business with each other and go home, there'll be peace.
Russia drank its own Kool aid about having it's own bloc. It wanted a Eurasian Economic and security zone.

Too bad they were too stupid to realize that having a bloc means that they need to have a sizeable, sustainable, and strong economy.

Now Central Asia has broken it's leash and aligning towards China. So thanks Biden, Obama, Putin, Trump etc for handing over CA to China for literally 0 cost.

While everyone fights over Ukraine or whatever, China sweeps in, gets CA, while Russia is forced (due to its own making) to exclusively sell resources to China with big discounts.


Art of the Deal indeed. China literally can't stop winning while everyone else, fall over themselves with their own stupidity
 
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