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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General

The fact is DeepSeek works as hyped. That's why they have to bring up privacy concerns because if it weren't better than the best the West has to offer, that's what they would be talking about to easily discredit. I don't get why they even bothered over "the US has to dominate AI in the world" narrative unless they were planning to use it like they think China is going to weaponize it actively against the US. The US will just have their AI and China will have theirs. What's the problem with that unless the US was planning to use their AI to actively undermine China.


I just started watching this channel and this Julie McCoy was parroting videos from David Shapiro knocking down DeepSeek was fake using technical jargon. Now both are accepting DeepSeek is real but of course still sticking to their anti-China guns. I just started watching this David Shapiro who's treated like some expert yet how did he think automatically DeepSeek was a fraud at first only to change his tune?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
It's the Fall of Rome time for the US.

I bet they think just stopping Americans from using it, DeepSeek falls apart. If it was that simply, why are they concerned with the US has to be the leader in AI in the world? All they have to do is just not use it and it becomes useless for China and for anyone else too. This is the same kind of thinking when I heard someone say there would be no jobs in China if it weren't for the US. So a cook in a restaurant in China feeding Chinese wouldn't exist if it weren't for the US? So how did China stay around for the thousands of years where the US didn't exist if the US provided all those jobs for Chinese...? That's the kind of dummies that run the US.
 

SanWenYu

Captain
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I have been thinking that DeepSeek might have been working with
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to add 人类价值观 (human values) to their AI.

I posted this in 2022 about one of Prof. Zhu's works: News on China's scientific and technological development.

According to 百度百科, these are the works by Prof. Zhu and his team in 2023 and 2024, all related to "value-driven AI":
2023年,朱松纯团队提出构建通用智能体的“心”与“理”的UV双系统理论。其中U系统表征客观世界和人类社会的状态和规律,简称“理”,即势能函数。V系统表征智能体的主观价值,简称“心”,即价值函数;智能体应该由“心”(V系统)驱动“理”(U系统),即由价值驱动其决策和行为,让智能体自主产生和完成任务,实现为机器立“心”,从而迈向通用人工智能 [3]。基于UV双系统理论,朱松纯提出了全球首个通用人工智能测试评级的标准与平台(Tong Test)。
2024年,朱松纯带领北京通用人工智能研究院发布全球首个通用智能体——小女孩“通通”,并入选中关村论坛重大科技成果。 基于原创的认知架构理论框架,以及自主研发的学习和推理框架,“通通”拥有了与众不同的“心智”,区别于数据驱动的AI,以价值和因果驱动的“通通”能够根据自己的“价值观”做出可解释的决策,而不是简单地执行预设的程序。“通通”的研发避开了当前数据驱动的AI对大算力、大数据的强依赖。同时,“通通”已具备智能泛化能力,能够成为各类垂直应用场景的通用底座。
 

SanWenYu

Captain
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AFAIK China is allowed to take counter actions while WTO case is pending

Final result will emerge if/when WTO court makes a final ruling (not happening btw)

For now, lets put the WTO front and center to show adherence to the rules, and later down the line can always take counter actions to effectively punish and further deter the US

Its all a big show after all. Everyone knows that US has blocked WTO, but at least China will be showing its willingness to follow WTO rules which will significantly alleviate fears that China is a rogue actor and further magnify the difference between it and the US

When fighting a global war against the Hegemon, taking the moral high ground and showing leadership is important. Soft power is an amplifier of your hard power after all
Yep Chinese still believe in 师出有名.
 

SanWenYu

Captain
Registered Member
I hate those people even more than I hate MAGA die-hards. I simply don't understand why they regret something that was so obvious, they can all go to the same hell with MAGA.
Well this is the problem of populist democracy. The voters can only choose between the dumbers and the dumberers, between the evils and the lunatics. In every election, to vote is like to pick the lesser evil.
 
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proelite

Junior Member
Damn, I missed this one.

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9dashline

Captain
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Downloading DeepSeek is punishable up to 20 years in prison according to this bill.
US is now building largest concentration camps in history of the world

put two and two together... we all getting rounded up as i been predicting from day zero

US has never been as insecure as it is right now, in its 250 year lifespan
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