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Serb

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Total collapse of the Western colonial model. Imagine 6 countries expelling you in one year. And yet westoids think they are some shit.




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  • Ivory Coast, Chad and Senegal are the latest to demand the removal of French forces, joining others such as Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso
  • Djibouti and Gabon are now the only 2 African nations with French continuing military presence

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victoon

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He used to tell the story that his parents were persecuted by the Castro regime to get sympathy votes from Cuban community. I guess that lying truly is a key skill to be Secretary of State. (Pempeo: what did i say?)
Just to be clear, in 1956, his parents immigrated to the US, the country that was colluding with the Cuban president at the time to exploit Cubans. The irony!!!
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4Runner

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Getting bored in Friday afternoon with tummy full of Chinese food, I would like to try some conspiracy thinking:

The timing of the latest DeepSeek releases.

DeepSeek-V3 was released on December 26th, 2024, which turned out to be the prelude of this whole DeepSeek drama. People were in western holiday season and had plenty of free time. Then on January 20th, 2025 DeepSeek-R1 was released, which was accidentally the inauguration day and 9 days before Chinese New Year. Also accidentally OpenAI and Meta et al. had already announced their new big releases "in early 2025", which up until then was the benchmark for closed LLM model and open LLM model. Now everyone in the world and their grannies are waiting for benchmarking new shiny releases from hyperscalers against this new kid on the block, DeepSeek. In between, there were also meaningful releases from Alibaba Qwen2.5-max, ByteDance Doubao 1.5 pro and Moonshoot Kimi.ai k1.5.

(1) Nobody is talking about Tiktok

(2) Everyone and his aunt is AI expert

(3) Small guys all over the world are coming out defending DeepSeek as an angel of open source

(4) Hyperscalers are uncharacteristically quiet in comparison to their 500B heydays prior to DeepSeek-R1 release

(5) US TV talking heads are actually mild on DeepSeek in comparison to their stance on Tiktok

(6) Some in China said it all happened due to Liang Wen Feng's conviction to open source

(7) Other in China said there some big hands behind this we-are-releasing-this-open-source-model playbook

What am I thinking now? Not much except that hats off to young engineers in China, who are more idealistic and less materialistic than being portrayed in social media. Anyhow, it has become a historical fact that, a private self-funded small tech firm in the beautiful heaven of Hangzhou has altered trajectory of generative AI development during the initial phase of the 4th industrial revolution.

My conspiracy thinking says that all this is not accident......
 

coolgod

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Getting bored in Friday afternoon with tummy full of Chinese food, I would like to try some conspiracy thinking:

The timing of the latest DeepSeek releases.

DeepSeek-V3 was released on December 26th, 2024, which turned out to be the prelude of this whole DeepSeek drama. People were in western holiday season and had plenty of free time. Then on January 20th, 2025 DeepSeek-R1 was released, which was accidentally the inauguration day and 9 days before Chinese New Year. Also accidentally OpenAI and Meta et al. had already announced their new big releases "in early 2025", which up until then was the benchmark for closed LLM model and open LLM model. Now everyone in the world and their grannies are waiting for benchmarking new shiny releases from hyperscalers against this new kid on the block, DeepSeek. In between, there were also meaningful releases from Alibaba Qwen2.5-max, ByteDance Doubao 1.5 pro and Moonshoot Kimi.ai k1.5.

(1) Nobody is talking about Tiktok

(2) Everyone and his aunt is AI expert

(3) Small guys all over the world are coming out defending DeepSeek as an angel of open source

(4) Hyperscalers are uncharacteristically quiet in comparison to their 500B heydays prior to DeepSeek-R1 release

(5) US TV talking heads are actually mild on Tiktok in comparison to their stance on Tiktok

(6) Some in China said it all happened due to Liang Wen Feng's conviction to open source

(7) Other in China said there some big hands behind this we-are-releasing-this-open-source-model playbook

What am I thinking now? Not much except that hats off to young engineers in China, who are more idealistic and less materialistic than being portrayed in social media. Anyhow, it has become a historical fact that, a private self-funded small tech firm in the beautiful heaven of Hangzhou has altered trajectory of generative AI development during the initial phase of the 4th industrial revolution.

My conspiracy thinking says that all this is not accident......
I mean Liang Wenfeng met with Premier Li Qiang and was shown on CCTV, you don't think they just exchanged holiday greetings do you?
 

supercat

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Who could have possibly done these? Let me guess: the same ones who bombed the pipelines of Nord Stream?

The level of cope above rivals that below:
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Pro-Consul Rubio: To stop the Chinese from investing in Greenland. We must annex Greenland first

If the earth isn’t warming. Why are you guys so concerned about the frozen arctic trade route? The thick ice isn’t suppose to be melting.
Don't underestimate Denmark. Fat Americans are a big vulnerability to the Trump regime. Allegedly 15% of Americans is taking Ozempic. Denmark can just stop its export to the US.

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Both DeepSeek and OpenAI are finished. Total annihilation. No chance of survival.
 

tamsen_ikard

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From my understanding, AGI will have a much greater impact than basically any other technological advance. And this time, it's actually something that cannot be lost. Even a 2 years gap in reaching AGI is devastation. And this is clearly not the case for other things such as 6th gen.

Haha good luck trying to achieve AGI with 100 layer neural networks when human brain has 100 billion of them. So called AGI has a long long way to go. I don't expect agi to be achieved in the next 50 years.
 

tamsen_ikard

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There is nothing magical or sophisticated about AI research. Especially neural network variety. Everyone in the field knows neural network is just pure black box. All people have is a bunch of tricks to link up neural network layers in different ways and see which one works. It's not even complicated math or physics or sophisticated tech like EUV. It's just trial and error.

The only sophisticated about AI research are actually the AI chips themselves. Each AI chip and how it's manufactured is probably the most sophisticated tech in the world.

But the actual software for AI, child's play.
I don't see any reason why anyone with enough money and GPU supply cannot make progress on it.
 
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