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iewgnem

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Eventine said:
In geopolitics, the US doesn't always get what it wants, but we're not talking about the US's control over every aspect of geopolitics. We're talking very specifically about its control over software platforms and financial services. There, the US does have tremendous leverage, because Silicon Valley really did take over the world outside of China.

In 2024, Android + IOS had 96% of global market share in smart phone OS. Harmony OS had just 4%, virtually all of it within China.

When you are that market dominant, it gives you power. No two ways about it. Same reason why China's dominance in EV and battery technology is scaring the **** out of the US and leading to constant media attention and political action. The only difference? Nobody outside of China and Russia are raising the alarm about the US's 96% market share in smart phone OS, despite the obvious risk that poses to national security, because they've been so used to the US media telling them what to think.
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US can ban Android or IOS and people can use Harmony or come up with something else.
If China bans Apple from global supply chain Apple dies along wit IOS.
if China bans US from Asian semiconductor Google and Apple both dies along with IOS and Android.

That's the difference between being popular, and being dominant.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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siegecrossbow said:
Yes it is!

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When Trump passed away in 2032, his death was as unconventional as his life. Found mid-orgasm with a Unitree sexbot’s mouth around his privates, he left the world in a manner befitting his chaotic legacy. Yet, rather than scorn, his death was mourned by billions of people within the People's Republic. In death, he achieved what he could not in the United States.
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I started tearing up at this part, ngl.
 
9dashline

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Eventine said:
My argument is that, contrary to what many people seem to believe, the US still does have a lot of cards to play.

On this particular topic, it has two powerful cards: 1) a virtual monopoly on software platforms for phones and PCs (in the form of IOS, Android, Windows, and even Linux if we go by the recent removal of Russian contributors from Linux's code base), 2) being the sole financial super power of the world, controlling the flow of the vast majority of global capital through its SWIFT system, stock market, and currency.

There's a reason no one outside of China and Russia really dare to do business with a sanctioned entity - the US can completely crush them in retaliation just by either freezing their financial assets (almost always in dollars), or by just banning them from the IOS and Android App. Stores, if they're a software company. The wealth of the so called "global elite" outside of China and Russia is almost entirely in the hands of US banks and trading houses. That's why the US can isolate and contain countries like Iran and Cuba with the stroke of a pen.

In short, the US is not helpless, and that's why a negotiated settlement favorable to the US may, in fact, happen.

That doesn't mean I agree with it. But dismissing it out right is foolish and ignores the advantages the US does have.
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The USD is still alive because China allows it to be, for now

Same with Nvidia, Apple and AI chips

Dont mistake money for actual means of production and reality on the ground

In a mutual rug pull, sans nuclear exchange, China wins hands down... even more so once China is EUV independent
 
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Eventine

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iewgnem said:
US can ban Android or IOS and people can use Harmony or come up with something else.
If China bans Apple from global supply chain Apple dies along wit IOS.
if China bans US from Asian semiconductor Google and Apple both dies along with IOS and Android.

That's the difference between being popular, and being dominant.
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Not every smart phone supply chain runs through China. Samsung, for example, moved its manufacturing out of China a while ago to Vietnam, and the US could make a deal with Korea to buy up some of their manufacturing facilities. With how much the Koreans seem to love the US and hate China, it's a pretty plausible scenario.
 
siegecrossbow

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9dashline said:
The USD is still alive because China allows it to be, for now

Same with Nvidia, Apple and AI chips

Dont mistake money for actual means of production and reality on the ground

In a mutual rug pull, sans nuclear exchange, China wins hands down... even more so once China is EUV independent
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We are at the point where the tiger realized what the donkey actually can do.

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Relevant scenes from one of the General Secretary’s favorite films.

 
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Biscuits

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siegecrossbow said:
Yes it is!

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True Trump ending imo:

*Camera panning over Silicon valley.

In an open, glass walled building, Donald accompanying Barron, who's looking at various electronic products

A young couple are also shopping, the man exclaims: "It's Trump!"

Passerbys look: "it is Trump!"

Man: "because of him, we lost jobs!"

Woman: "because of him, we have no inflation!"

Man: "because of him, we have instability!"

Woman: "because of him, we have housing and healthcare!"

"he surrendered us to China!"

"he gave us freedom!"

Store clerk: "because of him, we have many things. Like the newest Ascend graphics card, available in your nearest Huawei store, for only $390. Limited time only."

All: *nods "cheers for Trump!"
 
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Luckin coffee really took their bite.

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Starbucks is a huge welfare net for otherwise unemployable hipster white guys and basic yt girls. They'll have to cut in-store employees at some point.



Guess dumping unwanted migrants on other country's doorsteps doesn't go over well.
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tariffs on Colombian imports would start at 25% on all goods and would rise to 50% in one week.
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from landing last week
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Eventine said:
Not every smart phone supply chain runs through China. Samsung, for example, moved its manufacturing out of China a while ago to Vietnam, and the US could make a deal with Korea to buy up some of their manufacturing facilities. With how much the Koreans seem to love the US and hate China, it's a pretty plausible scenario.
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why bother about phones. Most new phones life span is 4 to 5 years and even more if higher end. while US can blockade Africa and Latin America for immediate raising prices of various commodities causing collapse of governments. Mideast is US aircraft carrier.
The point is US can sustain such conflict many years more than other continents.
why should phone be such complicated and even allowed to every one. this Ukraine conflict has reveal alot of things about societies when it got prolonged. It separated chaff from wheat.
 
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